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Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by AndroidKitKat »

BariumBlue wrote: post #115
AndroidKitKat wrote: post #91

Would have been nice to see a model without a microphone. I understand I'm a minoritiy (workplace doesn't allow devices with mics), but being severely hamstrung with smartwatch choices that don't have a microphone is tough. Will still definitely buy one to support the project, and will eagerly watch (heh) for new models!

Strange - I would expect a workplace that doesn't allow mics to also disallow bluetooth

Agree with sibling, security theater largely. I suspect the logic of banning is to stop recordings of conversations, whereas Bluetooth is just a protocol for sending data. Eliminate collection sensors and mediums for transmit are fine.

I did decide to purchase a Pebble Time Steel and a new battery alongside the Core 2 Duo. I hope that with Eric back in charge, the old Pebbles will be allowed to use the new app and hopefully get modern apps.

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by lolinder »

solarkraft wrote: post #57

Core 2 Duo is a pretty funny name. Are you going to sell replacement parts this time? I was immensely disappointed to see the initial watches being pretty repairable in theory, but no parts being sold. It was marketed as a tinkerer‘s device after all. I’m wearing my Pebble Time Steel right now - and quite like it. Haven’t found anything better. It could use some better activity tracking, but the worst thing about it…

There's a whole second blog post about Apple support being discussed here:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43401245

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by jezze »

I would buy one but only if I am guaranteed to be able to compile the source code somewhat easily and flash it to the device. Anyone knows if they have made any promises around that?

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by Steltek »

apparent wrote: post #144
IshKebab wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah but I think that's only a factor in the consideration. I doubt it cancels out identical and very distinct names.

Perhaps a trademark lawyer can weigh in. My understanding is that a trademark is strictly limited to the areas (both in terms of geography and vertical) claimed in the application. This is why Apple didn't have to do battle with the Beatles until they got into the music business.

The more interesting Apple trademark case was "iPhone", which was in active use by Cisco for their VoIP desk phones.

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by roboror »

nebulous1 wrote: post #101
apparent wrote: post #48

I'm pleased the pricing is so low. I did some math and if they're making 10k of these (not clear if that's each or all together), there's not a ton of money to be made. Assuming $100 average profit, that's a $2M for 20k watches. Given the work opportunities that the founder and other employees have, that's not a lot of money for them to make in a year, and it comes with significant risk. Basically seems like this is…

$100 profit on a $150 watch would be crazy. Rest of the post seems made up too. I don't know where these numbers are coming from. I'm genuinely confused.

Not crazy at all in consumer electronics, that's margin on the parts only. R&D, admin, software, etc. costs need to be recovered from that money.

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by mrzool »

marsknight wrote: post #159

I almost bought one and I'd love to. But then I've read in the Q&A about the tariffs and how that would affect the price at time of shipment. This is too much uncertainty for me. I've got no incentive to buy from the US right now, as a European. I wish you the best of luck, as you definitely put a lot of love into it

Same here. Based in the EU, I was ready to buy one on day one, but when I saw the prices listed only in USD I had to stop right there. Just the shipping alone would be $25, plus the uncertainty of duty fees. I hope to see an EU store soon — with prices in EUR, low-cost shipping, and all fees already factored in.

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by inasio »

hn8726 wrote: post #92
macNchz wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's kind of weird segmentation, but, given neither has GPS, I wonder how many people who'd seriously consider buying one of these really care about having a compass & barometer. Are those often important features to someone who doesn't care about GPS?

You can track elevation with barometer which is nice for casual hiking in the mountains

I had an old Suunto from before they went to crap, by far my favourite function was vertical speed, and it relied only on the accelerometer (the watch had GPS, but turning it on killed battery life). I still tried a couple of newer models but they removed that function.

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by throwaway48476 »

radlad wrote: post #130
mrpippy wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure Intel's law firms are drafting a cease & desist as we speak. I'd bet $10 the name changes.

Yeah, maybe... but what harm would it really do? The Core 2 line was killed off over 10 years ago in 2012.

The point of trademarks is to avoid ambiguity of origin. Pebble core 2 duo is definitely ambiguous.
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