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Re: How I got 100% off my train travel

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Your comment made me wonder. 65% chance of delay. >>> s = 'if the baseline chance of delay is 10%, engineering works add 25%, strikes add 35%, and bad weather adds 20%' >>> pb = 0.1 >>> pe = 0.25 >>> ps = 0.35 >>> pw = 0.2 >>> p = 1 - (1 - pb)*(1 - pe)*(1 - ps)*(1 - pw) >>> p 0.649

Agreed, but also where did those %'s come from? Seems like thin air so it's really all a gamble at this point.

78 percent of statistics are made up on the spot.

Re: How I got 100% off my train travel

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Deutsche Bahn: 1hr+ --> 25%, 2hr+ --> 50%

So 80% of journeys have a 50% refund?

First of all while punctuality is not good, the majority of delays is at most 60 minutes. On many lines there is a train every hour, more in denser areas. So for the majority of the delays, zero refund. And then even if entitled for a refund many passengers never apply for it. Not sure whether there are any reliable calculations available, my feeling is a significant part. While annoyed when it happens many are not excited by the paperwork (or type and clickwork) later. And if you do your paperwork sloppily the refund will be refused. Also correct but complicated cases will often be refused in the first round, so you have go through a 2nd or even 3rd round of detailing your connection and ticket.

Re: How I got 100% off my train travel

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Agreed, but also where did those %'s come from? Seems like thin air so it's really all a gamble at this point.

78 percent of statistics are made up on the spot.

and 42% of the time, they match up with reality.

Re: How I got 100% off my train travel

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Can you please elaborate on the Chinese advantage?

The network is massive and the average and top speeds are very fast. China has more high speed rail than the rest of the world combined.

China's land area is approximately 25 times of Japan, def has a bigger network. But the top speed is comparable in current generations[1] except the Maglev.

1. https://www.railway-technology.com/features/the-10-fastest-h...

Re: How I got 100% off my train travel

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post #160

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Can you please elaborate on the Chinese advantage?

The network is massive and the average and top speeds are very fast. China has more high speed rail than the rest of the world combined.

Compared to their size, Spain and Japan have a largest high speed network than China.

And tickets, specially in Spain, are very cheap.

Re: How I got 100% off my train travel

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> American trains tend to be much less frequent, slower, and less comfortable than most European trains. Exception: the New York regional rail system. Its on-time stats are comparable to Switzerland. We love to talk about subways and intercity high-speed rail. But in America, it doesn't make sense in most cases without subsidies. Drive-on / drive-off regional rail, on the other hand, trades pursim for pragmatism and…

> But in America, it doesn't make sense in most cases without subsidies That's the point of public transit, and that's the case everywhere. Also that of roads; roads wouldn't exist without government subsidies because nobody wants to pay toll to exit their driveways. Of course you'd need to reduce car dependency for any public transit system to make sense, and I don't think Americans care for that. For some reason, "…

> you'd need to reduce car dependency for any public transit system to make sense, and I don't think Americans care for that

This is what I mean. To reduce car dependence given America's built infrastructure, demographics and geographic spread, you'd have to build such a massive amount of public transportation that I think--outside major metropolitan areas--it would be cheaper to stick to cars.

Re: How I got 100% off my train travel

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Maybe a huge snowstorm happens blocking the train overnight, then someone is murdered on board, and a detective has to figure out who the perpetrator is before the next station?

>Maybe a huge snowstorm happens blocking the train overnight, then someone is murdered on board, and a detective has to figure out who the perpetrator is before the next station? That sounds like a great idea for a mystery novel. Perhaps one that includes the world's greatest detective. It might even get adapted several times for movies, both on the big screen and made for TV. I'm going to write it all down and make…

Now that’s using your little gray cells!

Re: How I got 100% off my train travel

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The UK train system is a dire, expensive mess. Attempting to avoid getting directly political here, but I strongly believe it’s one of the lowest hanging fruit a political party could act on to curry favour with the electorate. Would be amazing to see this productised à la the way split ticketing works.

Only 2% of all journeys in the UK are made by train. Only 8% of people in England use trains at least once per week. The professional-managerial class grossly over estimate the social and economic importance of passenger rail, because the network was built to serve their needs. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/66c5c0b6cbe60... https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5a815d8e40f0b...

Now try closing the railways of south-east England and see how well the roads hold up without them.

Re: How I got 100% off my train travel

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> if the baseline chance of delay is 10%, engineering works add 25%, strikes add 35%, and bad weather adds 20%, then when all these problems happen, there's a 90% chance your train will be delayed. What if signal failures "add" 15%? Then all factors combined would mean that there's a 105% chance your train will be delayed! Adding up probabilities like this doesn't make sense. If you simplify these things as independe…

> As for the article---I think you really undervalue your time and the price of inconvenience. I can see how you can romanticize it as a nice way to get things done, but (dealing with) train delays is hardly distraction free and is full of forced setting changes and (very) shit working environments (like waiting on a platform). By delays, I think the author meant that they get on a train, then sit in it for ~5 hours,…

Though the problem is that delayed trains are often overcrowded trains. And overcrowded trains are not conducive for doing work on a laptop, unless you like sitting on the vestibule floor outside the toilet door with your laptop on your knees.
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