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Re: Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline

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And United States still has regulations. Chevron doctrine is not a thing in Europe and European institutions do not get captured by NIMBYs when industry wants to build a railroad, a house or an apartment complex. There are no hundreds of governmental organizations demanding you impact assessments and environmental studies. For crying out loud, as an American you cannot work on your own house, since a lot of labour is…

In the US you can work on your own house, including electrical and plumbing (including natural gas and propane lines, I think). For minor repairs like replacing a switch or receptacle, I don’t think a permit is required. For more substantial changes a permit is generally required and as is an inspection. Supplies for doing all kinds of residential construction work are readily available at retail establishments that normal people visit regularly.

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Who said that government cannot compete with private companies on the free market? It is not like they banned notion, they simply released an alternative product. More competition means better outcome for the customers. But somehow you ended up saying this is communism. How you got there is completely beyond me.

> compete with private companies on the free market

It’s not a free market as soon as Gov’t start using text dollars. It’s also. It competition when one entity has zero risk and endless capital to spend on a project.

If a corporation did this, they’d be accused of being anti-competitive, not fostering competition.

Re: Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline

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Personally, even if this software wouldn't be 1:1 capable of replacing the established players, it still feels like a good idea. With how much people (rightfully) complain about how open source is underfunded and with how often we're forced into borderline exploitative dealings with the established players in the market (the likes of MS Office, Adobe products, Atlassian products, even some Oracle stuff), funding the…

Notion is not an example of delightful software and it is very much one of the most reproducible apps ever. I don't know how they managed to make it fashionable amongst startups, but it's certainly not because it's an innovative product.

  it is very much one of the most reproducible apps ever
Would love to move to an alternative that also works in the browser, got any suggestions?

I haven't found one that does what Notion does. I genuinely want to get off their AI training grounds but cannot. Your comment reeks of condescension because you are not the target user.

Re: Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline

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Notion is not an example of delightful software and it is very much one of the most reproducible apps ever. I don't know how they managed to make it fashionable amongst startups, but it's certainly not because it's an innovative product.

it is very much one of the most reproducible apps ever Would love to move to an alternative that also works in the browser, got any suggestions? I haven't found one that does what Notion does. I genuinely want to get off their AI training grounds but cannot. Your comment reeks of condescension because you are not the target user.

Shared Google Docs.

Re: Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline

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> Of course, there is always the risk that this becomes unmaintained in the future We can't even be certain that Notion won't be acquired, deprecated, or poorly maintained in the future. Risks exist on both sides.

> We can't even be certain that Notion won't be acquired, deprecated, or poorly maintained in the future. At this point, I feel like we can be pretty sure the combination of "Huge VC investments + for-profit startup" will with 99% certainly eventually lead down the road of enshittification, either by acquisition or by going public. At least based on most previous "internet" startups with that combination.

Not sure why you're being downvoted... This is exactly where the incentives lead the VC-funded companies. Unless they can be extremely profitable by charging money for their product of course, but I don't think Notion can pull this off. The market is just not there, imho.

Re: Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline

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This tool is part of a WIP complete suite of tools for public agents called "La suite numérique". https://lasuite.numerique.gouv.fr

adding to this, it seems to me like most of the projects are yet to be open sourced. the github currently has docs and their video conferencing tool (which also looks great): https://github.com/suitenumerique
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