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Internet shutdowns at record high in Africa as access 'weaponised'

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Starlink is the only massively global ISP and (as far as I’m aware) has not cut off access for anyone based on their politics or location.

Not true at all, Elon Musk has already cut off access for Ukraine because of his own personal views[1]. There's a reason why he's currently hated in most of Europe. [1] https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4193788-musk-acknowledges...

What a villain.

Re: Internet shutdowns at record high in Africa as access 'weaponised'

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Counterpoint: in the third world some 3rd rate shack with a shitty well or water source may often come 'free' as it stays in the family. I have seen people in the third world blow most their paycheck on phone and internet related charges since food/water/shelter may cost a villager in a farm basically nothing and the internet is entertainment and communication for a whole month.

If they had access to internet, you weren't in the parts of Africa I'm talking about. There is a difference between undeveloped, developing and developed. You go to an undeveloped place, you wouldn't be worried about phones or internet access. You just accept that you're going to be off the grid for the duration of your stay in that village. Alternatively, you bring your communications equipment with you so that you…

Well yes in places with no internet access people don't buy internet, but it's a bit tautological. People who survive by subsistence but come upon hard money somehow, in some place with towers, I have personally seen them blow a whole month pay on phone credits and it wasn't uncommon.

Re: Internet shutdowns at record high in Africa as access 'weaponised'

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This should be an extremely high profile piece of news... Imagine people all over planet Earth talking to each other in real life, in passing.. "Did you hear Internet access is cut off in ____"? Is there not some "tracker" out there? I'm sure it would be hard to keep up to date but..

Did you hear about hundreds of thousands of people dying in South Sudan’s civil war since 2013? Did you hear about the return of open-air slave markets in Libya since NATO intervention in 2011? Did you hear about dozens of other hideous things happening in Africa? It’s almost comical that you think people elsewhere would give a shit about such a comparatively minor thing as Internet interruptions.

These things have been reported hundreds / thousands of time if you read enough news to get informed of them. That's the only reason you know about them. There's no reason for a random local news station in rural Oklahoma to cover the South Sudan's civil war or Libyan slave markets.

That war and slavery are bad doesn't make the curtailing of civil rights for millions of people suddenly a nothingburger.

Re: Internet shutdowns at record high in Africa as access 'weaponised'

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I think the relevant quote here is, "they can shake their fist at the sky".

Satellite internet isn't a philanthropy project. Whoever's selling it is operating a retail front in the client's country, running payment processing and delivering or shipping physical satellite dishes. Even if the satellite vendor is aligned with your interests (I'm not touching that third-rail topic)—if your government doesn't want you to have satellite internet, you won't have it. Satellites aren't, in practice a…

Interestingly, I don't think you have to purchase the starlink in the same country you plan to use it (else what would be the point of the Mini version).

Re: Internet shutdowns at record high in Africa as access 'weaponised'

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the problem here isn't football. It's rampant censoreship and net blocks in the EU. (same problem different methods in other EU countries. In germany theiy raid your home for harmless political satire)

>>In germany theiy raid your home for harmless political satire) Can you give some examples so we can see what harmless political satire you have in mind?

Andy Grote comes to mind. Someone tweeted "Du bist so 1 Pimmel" (something like "you are such a willy") at him. Got his house searched and everything for that.

Issue here being the fact that insulting someone is a criminial offense (hope that's the correct english terminology) in Germany.

https://theweek.com/news/world-news/954635/willygate-german-...

e:/ Whether this is actual satire or not is up for debate i guess, but this was in my opinion way overblown

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So then why hasn’t Europe made a viable competitor to Cloudflare yet…?

Cloudflare isn't the company with too much power in the above scenario: La Liga is. CF isn't turning off access because they want to, it's because La Liga convinced a court that Cloudflare is promoting "piracy" with the various websites they host (some of which, constituting less than a rounding error of the overall sites they host, may host pirated soccer streams), and convinced a court to have Cloudflare blocked.

Technically LaLiga is only allowed to sue because the gov created aggressive IP/piracy rules, such as: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ley_Sinde

They were given those powers in court over Cloudflare via the Spanish government, with some help via a pressure campaign by US gov to protect US copyright globally.

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So then why hasn’t Europe made a viable competitor to Cloudflare yet…?

Cloudflare isn't the company with too much power in the above scenario: La Liga is. CF isn't turning off access because they want to, it's because La Liga convinced a court that Cloudflare is promoting "piracy" with the various websites they host (some of which, constituting less than a rounding error of the overall sites they host, may host pirated soccer streams), and convinced a court to have Cloudflare blocked.

If there was a viable competitor, then it wouldn’t matter so much if it was blocked or not…

Re: Internet shutdowns at record high in Africa as access 'weaponised'

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Here, in Spain, internet access is cut off for many websites during football matches because La Liga, the association football league, is in war against cloudflare for not blocking their allegedly offending websites. Or something like that. Today, I tried to look up a word on a dictionary and I got an error message. “There must be a football game going on right now”. I thought

I'm beginning to think Europe needs to just dry out from soccer for a year or two. Like, we're impacting communications now.

it s not such a massive thing as it used to

but football teams often have political connections and thus easy access to do such things

Re: Internet shutdowns at record high in Africa as access 'weaponised'

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I'm beginning to think Europe needs to just dry out from soccer for a year or two. Like, we're impacting communications now.

People getting riled up about soccer as a way to blow off steam and experience their tribalism is vastly superior to what we have in the USA -- a political environment that people treat like battling football clubs complete with lawless hooligans. When a soccer team wins they don't get to ascend to power and leverage the state against their enemies.

> When a soccer team wins they don't get to ascend to power and leverage the state against their enemies.

I mean, FIFA is corrupt as hell and there's been plenty of documented cases of other social ills caused by European soccer fandom, but okay.

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