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Apple pulls data protection tool after UK government security row

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Re: Apple pulls data protection tool after UK government security row

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As a citizen, I don’t understand what the UK government thinks they are getting here - other than the possibility of leaks of the nation’s most sensitive data. Also is it not possible to set up my Apple account outside of the UK while living here?

You need a non-UK card to use on your Apple Account to change its region.

Re: Apple pulls data protection tool after UK government security row

#162

It's the right choice: don't bow to government pressure, let the people pressure the government.

How? In the UK, there's no right to bear arms, so people are pretty helpless against their oppressing government.

>> In the UK, there's no right to bear arms, so people are pretty helpless against their oppressing government.

There's a right to bear arms in the US and it doesn't seem to be helping them with their oppressive government.

Re: Apple pulls data protection tool after UK government security row

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post #75

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This will likely depend on your primary account region. Apple can't just turn off E2EE on existing account nilly willy.

If they are able to, then then can be compelled. Do you mean won't/wouldn't?

“Apple said it will issue additional guidance in the future to affected users and that it "does not have the ability to automatically disable it on their behalf."”

From https://www.macrumors.com/2025/02/21/apple-pulls-encrypted-i...

Re: Apple pulls data protection tool after UK government security row

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post #118

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This is one of the reasons why I will never vote Labour. The UK has always hated not allowing people to self-incriminate, though...

> This is one of the reasons why I will never vote Labour. The Tories are generally worse. But I agree it's currently a case of "lesser of two evils".

I wouldn't vote for Tory either.

I usually vote for Lib Dem. Though they do things from time to time I don't like...

Re: Apple pulls data protection tool after UK government security row

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post #161
post #15

As a citizen, I don’t understand what the UK government thinks they are getting here - other than the possibility of leaks of the nation’s most sensitive data. Also is it not possible to set up my Apple account outside of the UK while living here?

You need a non-UK card to use on your Apple Account to change its region.

Would a Wise card work?

Re: Apple pulls data protection tool after UK government security row

#168

It's the right choice: don't bow to government pressure, let the people pressure the government.

> let the people pressure the government. Hopefully they will.

There was a lot of campaigning against the Investigatory Powers bill when it was introduced. It didn't help much given the people in power want more power regardless of where they sit on the political spectrum.

Re: Apple pulls data protection tool after UK government security row

#169

The UK wanted access to anyone's data. Not just UK citizens and then additionally added regulations forbidding apple to disclose this. UK is ~3-4% of apples income. While I appreciate Apples actions here, I wish they would make a real stand here and pull completely out of the UK.

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Re: Apple pulls data protection tool after UK government security row

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post #152

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> Apple told them they’d rather get out of UK To my knowledge, Apple has always said that their response would be to withdraw affected services rather than break encryption. > Apple has said planned changes to British surveillance laws could affect iPhone users’ privacy by forcing it to withdraw security features, which could ultimately lead to the closure of services such as FaceTime and iMessage in the UK. https://…

True! Thanks for the correction. IMO they could’ve categorized the whole iCloud service as “affected” and disable all of it.

My guess is that the order they received would have only effected encrypted device backups, at least so far.

Users in the UK do still have the option to perform an encrypted backup to their local PC or Mac.

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