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Matrix Foundation to shut down bridges if it doesn't raise $100K

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Re: Matrix Foundation to shut down bridges if it doesn't raise $100K

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Thank you for sharing that information. It seems like the foundation has been slowly moving in the right direction. I may have written a bit too harshly in my previous comment. I have been checking in on the development of Matrix, the Foundation, and monitoring that Github issue for quite some time. Questions: What is the narrow set of programs Matrix.org maintains? Is Trust and Safety referring to moderating the Mat…

> What is the narrow set of programs Matrix.org maintains? Is Trust and Safety referring to moderating the Matrix.org homeserver? Yes, the Foundation is currently: - Running the matrix.org homeserver from a technical perspective (servers & services costs + SRE) - Keeping the matrix.org homeserver free of spam. That's a notoriously difficult task on a tight budget but we're writing tools and working with contractors t…

>Can you be more specific of the threats you're envisioning here?

One open source founder who had complete control over the projects foundation appears to have used access to foundation resources against a commercial competitor- the case is currently in court, but the drama has already had a substantial negative impact on that community.

Some years ago, another open source founder who had great influence over the projects nonprofit removed a long time contributor from the project over commercial perception concerns, not due to a violation of the projects code of conduct- then repeatedly lied about the reason to the community (editing their own posts multiple times to try to cover it up), causing substantial harm to the project and community.

People aren't perfect, they will make mistakes, even without commercial interests. But the foundation, seeking to support all interests equally, can build confidence and security by spreading authority across interests (the Matrix Governing Board is a great step in that direction, but legally it seems like its role is advisory and subordinate to the Guardians, as it is not part of the governing documents of the organization).

Re: Matrix Foundation to shut down bridges if it doesn't raise $100K

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I was a huge matrix user, had converted "most" of my family and extended family to join matrix to be able to talk to me and it was generally a fine experience. Not great, just fine. But.... then the government imposed a ban and I continued to use it and last year the police knocked on my door with an Armada thinking me and my family were hosting some "terrorist". My.family forced me to cut ties to matrix then and the…

Sorry for your dictatorial government, buddy.

Re: Matrix Foundation to shut down bridges if it doesn't raise $100K

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yes and XMPP is actually a messaging protocol. Matrix is an eventually consistent database with a crappy messaging app implemented on top, and because of the insane architecture they are justifying decisions like message ordering that is non-deterministic[0] -- for multi user chat! What could possibly go wrong if users in a multi user chat see messages in different orders? This decision is a perfect example of how sm…

Even the E2EE implementation is garbage. To this day fifty percent of the conversation in every E2EE group chat I'm in is "Hey XYZ I can't see your messages because they fail to decrypt" because they still have bugs in how clients distribute their keys to other clients. Imagine the state of a chat platform literally failing at chat. Or look at how until a few months ago, the media store of every homeserver served med…

> (Recently they finally added the ability to require authentication for the media store, although they didn't add support for it to their web client, only their new Android one.)

This is not true. If it were true, it would imply you can't view any newly uploaded media from the web client. Here is the web implementation of MSC3916: https://github.com/element-hq/element-web/pull/27326

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