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Re: Elon Musk's Demolition Crew

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post #55

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Well as long as you'll admit you're wrong then everything is fine.

That’s not how this works. But the world is a lot better when people can admit the path they chose was wrong.

But... you saw that Trump said he wanted to turn the Gaza Strip into an Arabic Riviera and dispossess all the Palestinians... and he wants to take over Greenland, which is not an American territory?

But everything is going great, right?

Re: Elon Musk's Demolition Crew

#162

> On his personal Substack, he wrote an essay titled “Why I gave up a seven-figure salary to save America,” according to press reports, and described failed U.S. attorney general nominee Matt Gaetz, who withdrew from Congress amid allegations of sexual misconduct, as a “victim” of the deep state. The fact that nobody is stopping these people is the clearest evidence anyone needs that there's no such thing as "the dee…

I speak from personal history, but it's really easy to take a bunch of theoretically smart, high-achieving young people, give them a singular purpose, and have them work in overdrive with a level of arrogance that fits their lack of wisdom. It's essentially exactly how Mao was able to create the Red Guards during the Cultural Revolution.

I guess the operation principle for Trump II is, if we want to beat China, be China first.

Re: Elon Musk's Demolition Crew

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post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well as long as you'll admit you're wrong then everything is fine.

That’s not how this works. But the world is a lot better when people can admit the path they chose was wrong.

While it's true I was being facetious I very much do agree with you on this point.

Re: Elon Musk's Demolition Crew

#165
post #160

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How did you come to that conclusion from their comment?

-> consolidate power in the executive -> which is badly needed In the US power is divided between three branches of government to prevent any one bench from becoming too powerful through checks and balances. Consolidation of power in one branch would mean unchecked, dictatorial powers. -> How did you come to that conclusion from their comment? How did you not?

None of that implies a dictatorship. Also, consolidation in the executive branch does not imply removal of the others.

Re: Elon Musk's Demolition Crew

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And yet you allowed a grifter like Trump who bankrupted pretty much all his businesses to become President. Got it.

I didn’t allow anything. But compared with the folks running against him? Yeah, I’d pick him every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Get us a real candidate from the Democratic Party and we could have a discussion but Kamala was even less qualified than trump and what many non-Americans seem to miss is that Americans care about policy A LOT. We generally don’t give a shit if our president is a meanie head or says…

How do you figure Harris is less qualified than Trump? I never heard Harris say she would try to take over Greenland. I never heard her say it's a good idea to inject bleach to get rid of Covid...

Re: Elon Musk's Demolition Crew

#167

> On his personal Substack, he wrote an essay titled “Why I gave up a seven-figure salary to save America,” according to press reports, and described failed U.S. attorney general nominee Matt Gaetz, who withdrew from Congress amid allegations of sexual misconduct, as a “victim” of the deep state. The fact that nobody is stopping these people is the clearest evidence anyone needs that there's no such thing as "the dee…

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Your post is almost nothing but strawmen, it's almost impossible to respond to.

But I will say that DOGE is not attempting to fix anything. It's attempting to consolidate power. Have you paid any attention to how Musk operates?

Re: Elon Musk's Demolition Crew

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Apparently, DOGE is also meddling with FAA's air traffic control system. I wonder what could go wrong here? https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1887233566263967812

The question was raised here 24 hours ago .. and [flagged][dead] fairly rapidly. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42957495 Which was unfortunate as I asked for technical comments on the wisdom of moving fast and breaking things when applied to a million humans aloft at any moment.

That's a shame.

A lot of people seem to respect a man whose family has been old money for a long time, thinking he is somehow self made.

Re: Elon Musk's Demolition Crew

#170
post #11

Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) could be an implementation of Retire All Government Employees (RAGE), an idea that is part of the Dark Enlightenment movement. Another inspiration could be the Ministry of Deregulation and State Transformation of Argentina. Over there they call it "the chainsaw".

Walk and talks like a duck. This is an attempt at Yarvin's Butterfly revolution. Failing too, because courts know how to prioritize and take past actions into account, but wasteful nonetheless. I hear loads of Feds saying to hold the line. Less have taken Musk's RAGE offer than what normally retire in a given year.

That's an optimistic take unfortunately. From what I can see, the attempt is going tremendously well.

We'll have to see how brazen the trump admin really is prepared to be here. If they are all in, they'll ignore the courts and the doj will do nothing about it. Which has already been telegraphed.

From what ive seen, The feds are saying "hold the line" mostly to cope with the situation. If this admin wants to retire them, they will. Its hard to hold the line when your access is shut off and your paycheck stops coming in.

It's not a great situation. We're basically just sitting and waiting to see how much this administration is bluffing, with no reasonable answer for what to do if they are not -- in fact -- bluffing.

When they start ignoring the courts... what next? Do we hope the military intervenes?

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