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Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong

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Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong

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Honest question, why? USPS is cheap. Is there something special about a stack of blank PCBs (or ICs, or caps, or whatever) that precludes USPS from shipping them? I know they are weird about batteries, but everything else, right?

USPS is cheap! Much cheaper to send from China to the USA than the other way around d for some weird reason. But I’m guessing a business who was interested in air mailing parts and prototypes..isn’t interested in value.

It’s cheaper because USPS has been subsidizing the costs. That’s why a lot of small packages were shipped with usps.

Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong

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The other issue is American quality has gone down the tank. 10-15 years ago I’d look for American quality over Chinese, but nowadays I prefer the Chinese manufacturer almost 100% of the time. Not always the case but anecdotally chinas quality has gotten better while American stuff has gotten worse.

Yes. People associate Chinese manufacturing with low quality products, but I feel those people misunderstand systems. It's not Chinese manufacturing that is low quality. It's really the sites like Temu and Shein that create low quality products -- because of their aggressive pricing, they create a cascade of systemic cost pressures on manufacturers, who have to cut corners. AMZN on the other hand probably provides mo…

China makes quality things, they just keep it for themselves, and ship their crap to us.

Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong

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At least for China they have an environmental plan far and away better than the US’s “what do the rich want to do?”.

Can you give details of China’s environment plan?. All I hear about are the dozens of coal plants China builds each year. Are they no longer building those plants?

Yes and. China is still rapidly expanding their electricity production (because their energy use per capita is still way below US/Europe), and they don't have huge amounts of natural gas like the US does. As such, they are building coal plants that in the near term boost energy production, and in the medium term will be used as peaker plants for when the massive amount of renewables that they're also installing don't meet demand.

Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong

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The obvious solution to this is to BUILD IT ALL IN AMERICA. And while waiting 15 years for that to become possible, just move that US based R&D to countries not ran by idiots. I blame myself for not immigrating earlier. I had a chance to move overseas for a least a year and I didn't.

I know it's absolutely not the point of your post and you don't mean 15 years as a literal prediction but I thought about it anyway and damn, 15 years is pretty optimistic. Think about how long it took China to become a manufacturing giant. It would take the US even longer to get back to that. The US would have to do what China did, with additional challenges such as: - overcoming environmental regulations - a more d…

I think you’ve, intentionally or not, hit on a critical point that most like to ignore while passively accepting that “China is simply where things are manufactured”. As if that wasn’t the case until about the time the median HN reader was born.

Some will attribute it to the proximity of factories to one another, collaboration between those in adjacent industries, culture, government intentionality, a general lack of enforcement on IP as long as it favors China… but the truth is if China along with every alternative adopted Western environmental and labor laws tomorrow, by mid-2026 there would be factories open in every town and city in the USA and Canada.

The West loves to play holier than thou while paying others to put their negatives on their books. Canada implementing carbon pricing and phasing out coal domestically while simply shipping it to Asia instead is the perfect example. Or banning single use plastic because we were shipping it to countries that claimed they were recycling it and instead dumping it into rivers.

There is no reason why we can’t produce things, aside from the fact that it’s unpalatable and often illegal to have to deal with the realities of manufacturing like toxic effluents and aerosols.

It’s why we tend to stick to manufacturing things that only involve assembling, processing, and welding materials after the bulk of the nastiness has been done overseas.

Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong

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It's like the right is doing everything they can to make the country be pissed off at them. Do they understand we still have the power to vote?

In four years. People have short memory. Feasible.

Details matter. Vote in two years to choose your representatives in Congress.

Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong

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This is going to utterly fuck so many R&D projects at my company. We actually do large-scale manufacturing of industrial valves in the USA. But a lot of our prototyping involves working with Chinese suppliers and getting small batches of samples / prototypes / revisions sent in packages on airplanes. I literally do not know how the electrical and firmware engineers will do their jobs now if we cannot receive packages…

>I literally do not know how the electrical and firmware engineers will do their jobs now if we cannot receive packages from China As a software engineer who works closely with electrical and firmware engineers I know what you are saying is completely true. The question is how did we let it go this far? Why has there never been serious Western alternatives to JLCPCB, PCBWay, JLCCNC etc.? Has anyone asked themselves h…

> The question is how did we let it go this far?

Because allowing countries to maximize their comparative advantages is great for economic growth. It doesn’t make sense for every nation on earth to have their own copy of every industrial sector. We don’t need all nations to manufacture their own jet engines, oil tankers, t-shirts, and Tylenol. Trade is good.

The idea that China is a major security threat is basically brand new. Half of century of economic policy can’t be reversed in 5 years.

Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong

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I doubt you were using USPS before for those, so your company shouldn’t be affected unless this affects private shipping companies as well.

Honest question, why? USPS is cheap. Is there something special about a stack of blank PCBs (or ICs, or caps, or whatever) that precludes USPS from shipping them? I know they are weird about batteries, but everything else, right?

This is kinda funny. I ordered a bunch of blank PCB's and it was inspected (opened) by ICE. It had their green tape trying to close it up (badly) after they opened it.

I think they're looking for things that can't be X-rayed or scanned.

Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong

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USPS is cheap! Much cheaper to send from China to the USA than the other way around d for some weird reason. But I’m guessing a business who was interested in air mailing parts and prototypes..isn’t interested in value.

It’s cheaper because USPS has been subsidizing the costs. That’s why a lot of small packages were shipped with usps.

Also cheap because the entire world subsidizes China-to-elsewhere shipping via the UPU continuing to classify them a “developing country”.
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