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Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–now it wants that ignored

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Re: Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–now it wants that ignored

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Post by throwfgtpwd234 »

chris_wot wrote: post #103
tw04 wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think it's necessarily fair to say Oracle is total crap. For decades they were more performant and had more features than most anything else on the market. They supported scale-out clustering on linux with Oracle RAC. They were early adopters of high performance NFS moving the NFS stack out of the linux kernel and directly into the database with DirectNFS. They built a clustered filesystem for block-based clu…

It doesn't matter how great their database was. If they want to shake down businesses (which they are known to do), then don't have anything to do with them. Ever.

The type of business that rests on its laurels and believes ratcheting continuously-increasing rent seeking at the expense of goodwill will soon find themselves without new customers and possibly without a market because they took their self-assured dominance for granted. Hubris. Cfengine and Tripwire both found that out the hard way.

Re: Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–now it wants that ignored

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Post by nubinetwork »

Please don't back out of this... oracle needs to be slapped down for every piece of software that they've bought (or scammed/stolen) and abused with neglect and hoarding, and trying to milk every dollar out of things they never created.

Re: Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–now it wants that ignored

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Post by floydnoel »

not_a_bot_4sho wrote: post #126
floydnoel wrote: post #48

I'm glad this is being fought, Oracle is a demon. > The major implementations of JavaScript are in the browsers built by Mozilla, Google, Apple, and Microsoft Isn't MS's browser just Chromium? Weird to add them to the list when they don't build a browser any more. Why not add Brave, etc?

> Isn't MS's browser just Chromium? No. It's based on Chromium. It has quite a bit on functionally that's not available on Chrome or Chromium.

for the purposes of this discussion, irrelevant. we are talking about JS implementations. extra bookmarking features or copilot slop isn't a factor.

Re: Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–now it wants that ignored

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Post by robertlagrant »

rtpg wrote: post #123
LoganDark wrote: post #82

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> [0]: Again, I'm not paying for the lawyers or doing anything useful at all! It sucks that these kinds of disclaimers are necessary these days. I've also had more than my fair share of "you're not helping so you don't get to have an opinion"

The open thing is that the person doing the thing is allowed a greater say to strategy IMO.

This isn't the forum where strategic decisions are happening.

Re: Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–now it wants that ignored

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Post by robertlagrant »

EMIRELADERO wrote: post #107
mbo wrote: post #97

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> Do not fall into the trap of anthropomorphising Larry Ellison. You need to think of Larry Ellison the way you think of a lawnmower. You don't anthropomorphize your lawnmower, the lawnmower just mows the lawn, you stick your hand in there and it'll chop it off, the end. You don't think 'oh, the lawnmower hates me' -- lawnmower doesn't give a shit about you, lawnmower can't hate you. Don't anthropomorphize the lawnmo…

I started to dislike that quote somewhat. Why should we celebrate the fact that our society doesn't place moral pressure onto executives? Why should we find it acceptable that this is the status quo?

No one is celebrating anything.

Re: Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–now it wants that ignored

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Post by robertlagrant »

toddmorey wrote: post #37

Hear me out: the web / oss community could absolutely band together and rebrand JavaScript. Could be: LiveScript, WebScript, etc. There would be good support and we could do it fairly swiftly. To hell with Oracle.

Can we call it LarryScript?

Re: Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–now it wants that ignored

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Post by duxup »

jeremyjh wrote: post #100
duxup wrote: post #81

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Yeah every argument about Oracle being bad is business related, not tech.

Oh no, they have shoveled some shit in their day for sure. I mean their ERP, their enterprise java bean stuff. But their flagship database product was always quite good, especially if you had staff or consultants who really knew it.

I probably should have said that most conversations… don’t reach the tech stage and stop at their business practices.

Re: Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–now it wants that ignored

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Post by adolph »

1. Is anyone paying Oracle for this trademark? I ask because lawyers aren’t underpants gnomes; if there is not a revenue stream then what supports their effort?

2. The below quote from the article has a poignant innocence to it. Not as unhinged as Mullenwrg but still as deluded.

I created Node.js and released it under the MIT license to benefit developers, not so it could be used as a legal pawn by a Fortune 500 company. Now, instead of correcting their misrepresentation, they’re using it to stall the case.

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