Conversely, by using their router and modem you move the demarc to the Ethernet port on the inside of the router, which makes getting support significantly easier. I care about that more than control. And I know damn well they ain’t got time to spy on me. Just because appeals to authority are fun, I spent decades as a network engineer and then architect.
Avoid ISP Routers (2024)
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#162Earlier quoted context omitted.
The crappiness of national ISPs is a feature, not a bug. ISPs have lobbied at state and federal levels to get their way. In many states, they have lobbied _for_ the ban of municipal ISPs. Then between major ISPs they have under the table agreements to avoid competing in certain areas. This impacts all types of residential areas - suburban, urban, and rural. I believe it’s much worse in rural areas. Why bother with pr…
remember when verizon got a few Billions to deliver affordable rural access then pocketed the money and delivered nothing? you ougth remember because it happened three times.
Re: Avoid ISP Routers (2024)
#163My ISP requires me to use their router, but I just put my own behind it.
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#164I wish. I own my own modem and router, but Comcast won’t let me use them unless I pay a whole bunch of extra fees or accept a stupidly low monthly data cap. I’ve got my router downstream of theirs which is a bit annoying, especially considering their modem-router combo overheats and needs to be rebooted via unplugging power at least once a month. Sadly I have no other options here in San Francisco. My house is not wi…
This is why the market needs some regulation. Here in The Netherlands, ISPs are required to offer free (as in freedom) modem/router choice. Not only can you replace the router, you can even use your own XGS-PON/AON/etc. SFP(+) module. For a while I had fiber running through an XGS-PON SFP module in my own Fritz!Box. Now I use the provider's ONT (which is just a fiber ethernet media converter) hooked up to a Unifi Clo…
One of my connections here is 10G but I haven't tested any modules...
Re: Avoid ISP Routers (2024)
#165Earlier quoted context omitted.
Manwhile i live in a rural area 10kms away of a little town in the south of Chile with FTTH with 1gbit symetrical with Static ip address really unlimited (no CAP of anytype) with one deco for my tv for 24 usd a month with an installation that cost me 30 usd. Should i add i hace to use rainwater because no potable wáter Is available?
Same here (except Chile). It's weird/sad/expected because of Comcast & others that the US are still not reliably connected everywhere. From the country that brought us the internet!? In my (European) country, you have to live in a swamp far away from everything to not have FTTH legibility, in the same ballpark prices as the comment above. Static IP as a (free) opt-in.
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#166Earlier quoted context omitted.
In EU the second poorest country has the fastest internet. The richest country cannot provide cellular signal to all of its area.
Hey, we finally get fiber in the "richest" country. Telekom just wants to build it to our apartment, for free. They just need a permission from our landlord, who said no way and blocked the fiber installation. We are stuck with Vodafone only... I guess it is a better investment for them to smoke us out, renovate this place and rent it with three times more...
Re: Avoid ISP Routers (2024)
#167Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is why the market needs some regulation. Here in The Netherlands, ISPs are required to offer free (as in freedom) modem/router choice. Not only can you replace the router, you can even use your own XGS-PON/AON/etc. SFP(+) module. For a while I had fiber running through an XGS-PON SFP module in my own Fritz!Box. Now I use the provider's ONT (which is just a fiber ethernet media converter) hooked up to a Unifi Clo…
Any recommended XGS-PON modules? One of my connections here is 10G but I haven't tested any modules...
If you happen to be in the Netherlands, some of the KPN tech staff hang around on the Tweakers.net forums. They help a lot of users there who want to go down this road.
Re: Avoid ISP Routers (2024)
#168Earlier quoted context omitted.
Same here (except Chile). It's weird/sad/expected because of Comcast & others that the US are still not reliably connected everywhere. From the country that brought us the internet!? In my (European) country, you have to live in a swamp far away from everything to not have FTTH legibility, in the same ballpark prices as the comment above. Static IP as a (free) opt-in.
To be fair, the US is much less dense than a lot of Europe. Ireland has a similar density, and rural areas have pretty crummy coverage.
Re: Avoid ISP Routers (2024)
#169My ISP sent over a Fritz!box (though they offered a "bring your own" option as well). It came preconfigured for my ISP. I turned off remote access and TR-069 through a toggle in the settings, then changed the admin password. Really, that's all you need to do to take control of one of these routers. There are good reasons to dislike the AVM routers, but their software is actually pretty solid in terms of customisation…
Re: Avoid ISP Routers (2024)
#170Conversely, by using their router and modem you move the demarc to the Ethernet port on the inside of the router, which makes getting support significantly easier. I care about that more than control. And I know damn well they ain’t got time to spy on me. Just because appeals to authority are fun, I spent decades as a network engineer and then architect.
What if I want demarcation right inside the router?