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Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by loeg »

hedora wrote: post #85
lolinder wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eh, "recorded history" is totally the wrong phrase. When we say "recorded history" we don't mean "the window of time in which we have detailed records up to our modern standards", we specifically mean "the window of time in which we have records of any sort", contrasted with "prehistory". The phrase they were looking for is "largest on record" or even better "largest since 195X". > For broader world history, recorded…

Largest in CDC records. US government records existed before 1950.

Sure, but that isn't what the headline says.

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by bayarearefugee »

aliasxneo wrote: post #127
giantg2 wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wouldn't this have showed up in the reports last year when the numbers were actively happening? There's been 1 case this year it says. If the ideology was what you're saying, then wouldn't they want to spread the info and blame it on the "dirty illegals" or whatever?

This year has been a rough start for HN. The political commentary is infecting every thread.

I would argue that being rabidly apolitical while a dangerous threat to western democracy has been growing in America for years is the rough part.

I'm an old person. I have a leftist bent. I used to get along with many conservatives, I just had different policy viewpoints than they did. What we are seeing now is a completely different political landscape where one of the parties is actively setting up a dynastic plutocracy in the open.

FWIW I have a ton of criticism for the "other" party too as an ineffective mess sucking the corporate teet almost as hard, just without the actual proto fascism.

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by windexh8er »

aliasxneo wrote: post #127
giantg2 wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wouldn't this have showed up in the reports last year when the numbers were actively happening? There's been 1 case this year it says. If the ideology was what you're saying, then wouldn't they want to spread the info and blame it on the "dirty illegals" or whatever?

This year has been a rough start for HN. The political commentary is infecting every thread.

Maybe the political climate is impacting a higher number of topical points that are being discussed on HN. When governments are changing, interfering, and impacting technology you're going to see it crop up more.

It's not a "rough start for HN", it's the current climate of the world through the lens of the US.

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by boringg »

netman21 wrote: post #48

Largest in recorded history is a bit of hyperbole. In the 1800s something like 80% of all Americans had the TB bacillus and of those that came down with TB a huge percentage died.

How are you going to get people to click on the article without hyperbole?

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by ty6853 »

foobarchu wrote: post #131
aliasxneo wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This year has been a rough start for HN. The political commentary is infecting every thread.

That's because it's an extremely big deal and affects many things discussed here.

As the federal government expands the stakes get ever higher. What could be overlooked before now becomes fierce debate.

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by lolinder »

netman21 wrote: post #48

Largest in recorded history is a bit of hyperbole. In the 1800s something like 80% of all Americans had the TB bacillus and of those that came down with TB a huge percentage died.

Yeah, the phrase they were looking for is "largest on record", or more precisely "largest in the CDC's records".

"Recorded history" has a very specific definition that places it in contrast with "prehistory": it's the time period in which we have written records of any sort, as opposed to the time period in which there is no surviving writing. That both phrases have "record" in them doesn't make them synonymous.

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by ksenzee »

3eb7988a1663 wrote: post #113

I had a TB scare last year. Coworker was exposed to a confirmed case. Got tested, and we all turned up negative. I then asked if I could get a TB vaccine, but was told no, because it makes the TB visual assessment test useless. So, to aid future potential diagnoses, I need to be able to be infected by the genuine article.

That’s one reason the BCG vaccine isn’t given in the US, but it’s also because the data on whether it’s effective in adults is really inconsistent. It seems to vary based on geography (maybe distance from the equator? they’re not sure). If we were going to administer it routinely, it would be for infants, where the data is better.

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by chillfox »

redler wrote: post #75
laidoffamazon wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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…of the 63% who bothered themselves to vote.

In a democracy anyone wo doesn't vote should be considered to have voted for the winner as they were equally OK with any outcome.

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by shadowgovt »

aliasxneo wrote: post #127
giantg2 wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wouldn't this have showed up in the reports last year when the numbers were actively happening? There's been 1 case this year it says. If the ideology was what you're saying, then wouldn't they want to spread the info and blame it on the "dirty illegals" or whatever?

This year has been a rough start for HN. The political commentary is infecting every thread.

It's hard to do technology when your staff and customers have TB.
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