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Re: Orbit by Mozilla

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Post by hu3 »

simonw wrote: post #157
hu3 wrote: post #53

Related. This is the bookmark I use to summarize websites using ChatGPT: javascript:window.open('https://chatgpt.com/?q=summarize this page in 100 words: '+encodeURIComponent(window.location.href),'_blank'); Basically it opens a new tab on chatgpt.com with the prompt: "summarize this page in 100 words: URL" Tested on Firefox and Chrome. Some websites block ChatGPT and can't be summarized this way. Works in incognito/…

Here's a version of that which should work for any page, whether or not they allow ChatGPT URL access: javascript:window.open('https://chatgpt.com/?q=summarize this page in 100 words: '+encodeURIComponent(document.body.innerText),'_blank'); I swapped window.location.href for document.body.innerText

Nice! Thank you!

I just wonder if browsers will limit the amount of characters in URLs.

If memory serves me, there was a limit. But it might be high enough to work fro most pages.

Re: Orbit by Mozilla

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Post by freetonik »

teruakohatu wrote: post #127
dralley wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most non-tech "normies", which is to say 95% of the population, barely know what a browser is. They couldn't describe the function of one, or discriminate what makes one better than another. They certainly won't give a crap about Servo, or extremely marginal improvements in page load time (at best).

Given that web browsers are the heaviest application most users are running, and they are running them on low end 10yr old laptops with 8gb of RAM, I think an ultra modern lightweight web browser would be noticeably better. Web browser crawl on these low end laptops. This is how Firefox became popular in the first place, by being better. The “we need an alternative to the “WebKit/blink/chromium” monopoly is what the…

From my experience observing and interacting with “normal” non-tech users, slowness of apps and long loading times are simply ignored. I would think “how the hell can you live like that?!”, and they would at best say “yeah it’s kinda slow”.

Re: Orbit by Mozilla

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Post by ripped_britches »

neilv wrote: post #7

Huge heading: > Commitment to privacy Buried as the last sentence in a collapsed box at the bottom of the page: > For the current version, we are using a Mistral LLM (Mistral 7B) hosted within Mozilla’s GCP instance. And why is it "...Mozilla's GCP instance", not "We quietly send all your data to Google servers, and everyone pinkie-swears that's totally privacy-respecting"?

Definitely a baseless conspiracy theory to suggest that Google is harvesting data from their GCP customers

Re: Orbit by Mozilla

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Post by 400thecat »

forgotmypw17 wrote: post #88
reissbaker wrote: post #32

Why does Mozilla always spin their wheels releasing random side projects? Cloud-hosting an outdated tiny LLM that you can't swap out or run locally, to do basic summarization? This just doesn't feel like an area of strategic focus that makes sense for Mozilla. GPUs are expensive, talent to do inference well is expensive, and the actual product they're shipping seems pretty marginally useful at best. If they shipped v…

For me, the product differentiation of Firefox is a bunch of small convenience features which Chrome in its monolithism refuses to provide, such as: Allowing Backspace to go back a page. The built-in screenshot tool. Being able to turn off smooth scrolling. Support for a menubar, so that I can navigate the features I want quickly. Being able to choose page encodings (I use a non-Latin charset language). A usable/usef…

> A usable/useful bookmark manager with things like sorting, tags/labels, timestamps, etc.

which bookmark manager can do that ?

Re: Orbit by Mozilla

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Post by ripped_britches »

sitkack wrote: post #75
BadHumans wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any revelation that Google is siphoning data out of other companies GCP instances would be so earth-shattering I don't think it is happening.

If you aren't running an encrypted disk on any cloud provider you should absolutely fundamentally understand that your data has been scanned and that your VM data is "business data" so a copy gets sent to whomever wants it, in bulk.

Maybe if you are like a high profile target of a state actor, but otherwise this is a paranoid take

Re: Orbit by Mozilla

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Post by bufferoverflow »

hu3 wrote: post #53

Related. This is the bookmark I use to summarize websites using ChatGPT: javascript:window.open('https://chatgpt.com/?q=summarize this page in 100 words: '+encodeURIComponent(window.location.href),'_blank'); Basically it opens a new tab on chatgpt.com with the prompt: "summarize this page in 100 words: URL" Tested on Firefox and Chrome. Some websites block ChatGPT and can't be summarized this way. Works in incognito/…

That only works for public pages. It can't summarize some attachment to your email, for example.

Re: Orbit by Mozilla

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Post by gloosx »

hu3 wrote: post #161
simonw wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's a version of that which should work for any page, whether or not they allow ChatGPT URL access: javascript:window.open('https://chatgpt.com/?q=summarize this page in 100 words: '+encodeURIComponent(document.body.innerText),'_blank'); I swapped window.location.href for document.body.innerText

Nice! Thank you! I just wonder if browsers will limit the amount of characters in URLs. If memory serves me, there was a limit. But it might be high enough to work fro most pages.

It's around 8KB now – so text bigger than 8 thousand characters will return: "414 Request-URI Too Large".

Anyway the document.body.innerText contains all things on the site, including links, menus, buttons etc just 1 per newline. LLM will only recognise if it previously scanned the same website and it did not change much since the last training set. Some arbitrary websites it will not recognise this way and start hallucinating one because innerText removes all the structure from it.

Re: Orbit by Mozilla

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Post by chamomeal »

notatoad wrote: post #158
reissbaker wrote: post #32

Why does Mozilla always spin their wheels releasing random side projects? Cloud-hosting an outdated tiny LLM that you can't swap out or run locally, to do basic summarization? This just doesn't feel like an area of strategic focus that makes sense for Mozilla. GPUs are expensive, talent to do inference well is expensive, and the actual product they're shipping seems pretty marginally useful at best. If they shipped v…

Building a browser is hard. Building a proof of concept of the current tech fad is easy and fun. Sometimes developers need to do easy and fun things to keep themselves motivated and happy. You could build an AI Assistant, or you could spend a month bikeshedding some design details of vertical tabs.

Yeah I doubt this took a huge amount of resources away from other development. It’s a fun little optional feature that might end up being cool.
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