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Re: HN: Please replace grayarrow.gif with Unicode character ▲

#161

And please put more whitespace between links so us iPhone users can press on links without accidentally hitting the comments link. Thanks :)

That's one of the reasons I really like Opera mobile and Opera mini: if you fat-finger and there are two possible links you could've hit, it zooms in so that you can disambiguate the click.

Chrome on Android does this as well.

Re: HN: Please replace grayarrow.gif with Unicode character ▲

#162
post #37

And please make the up-vote button larger than the down-vote one. (They're not really logical opposites and their use frequency is quite different.)

A lot of the comments below engage in back-and-forth (up-and-down?) about whether or not it is permitted to use downvotes to indicate disagreement. Pretty much every time long-time users of Hacker News participate in a discussion on this issue, someone remembers to bring up pg's comment in an early thread from 1608 days ago. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=117171 "I think it's ok to use the up and down arrows to…

Does anyone know the rule on when a user gains the ability to downvote? I've been here a while, but I rarely vote for anything. I still never see the downvote icon.

Re: HN: Please replace grayarrow.gif with Unicode character ▲

#163
post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People do it that way, but it's incorrect. You are not supposed to use downvotes to disagree. (Initially it was like that, but not anymore because it stifled the conversation and caused groupthink since people were too scared to post anything controversial.)

It is correct. What is incorrect is to thing that symmetrical interface elements can have asymmetrical actions. How would you like if turning steering wheel to the left would give left turn, but turning it to the right would stop the car? If you want asymmetrical meaning, please, use different elements.

By the time someone aquires 500 points, they will likely have spent enough time on the site to learn the distinction between the two. While using text labels would be fine, I do not think that would be better than using the symbols.

The reasons for clicking may not be symmetrical, but the actions when clicking are symmetrical. The points go down with the down arrow and the points go up with the up arrow. This is symmetry even if the reason (agree, disagree, quality, spam, etc.) for the increase and decline of the points is asymmetrical.

Re: HN: Please replace grayarrow.gif with Unicode character ▲

#168
post #144

Also, there's a sort of issue of the greyarrow.gif being equilateral, so there's no clear distinction of where does it actually point. I know it "works", but it ain't "clean".

I didn't notice the problem until you mentioned it. For me it was obvious that it points up/down, but now that you mention it I see that it could point in other directions as well. I guess the question is: Do users get confused about the arrows?

I am certain the users do not get confused about the arrows. However, if you can wrap your head around it, it might actually look like it is pointing at the message itself, but that would have no actual meaning to a person.

It might be mistaken for a collapse/expand option, but people have been conditioned that + and - or the down arrow and right arrows are for that.

If it had a stick indicating the bottom protruding from it, it would appear to be a direction rather than an action link.

Re: HN: Please replace grayarrow.gif with Unicode character ▲

#169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As of 3 weeks ago, this is true. I checked mine at 501

Replying beside untog because I'm not permitted to reply to untog. You don't downvote submissions. You just don't upvote if you don't like it.

So upvote every submission except for the one you don't like.

Re: HN: Please replace grayarrow.gif with Unicode character ▲

#170

And please put more whitespace between links so us iPhone users can press on links without accidentally hitting the comments link. Thanks :)

That's one of the reasons I really like Opera mobile and Opera mini: if you fat-finger and there are two possible links you could've hit, it zooms in so that you can disambiguate the click.

Chrome mobile does this too now, although not sure it is perfect in deciding when to yet.
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