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To be fair, DoorDash is bad news for DoorDash because a $8 meal costs $30.
I mean, they're all like that, adding on 40% to the actual meal total.
Y is the problem of Y. It's profiteering and exploitation.
Wonder is acquiring Grubhub
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A ton of places are doing that. Restaurants that want to price things differently from their main. Or primarily in-store restaurant chains that don't want branding impacted by crappy delivery reviews. Keyword competition to improve sales. Menu, naming, picture, process experimentation. Additional placement in search results with different ranking. Bad review evasion. Limiting blast radius of bad reviews (eg, they sti…
The way you put it doesn't sound like almost the mirror-image of the whole "ghost kitchens" thing. If established, reputable restaurants with known food quality are operating unde alternative branding in order to experiment with new marketing strategies, it doesn't really seem like 'cheating' to me. Definitely not in the same category as a fly-by-night operation in a warehouse pretending to be an established restaura…
Agree, it's all in how it's actually used. There are ghosts kitchens renaming themselves to avoid bad reviews, or to inflate their presence. But there are legit reasons to do it too.
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Or just order from local restaurants using GrubHub. Most mark up their menu prices to absorb the hit they take from working with GrubHub and similar services. Some will encourage you to order directly or through a different 3rd party by including a flier with the delivery order. But many others only offer delivery through 3rd parties like GrubHub.
I just call them, it's not like the phone company takes a cut when you order on the phone.
>I just call them, it's not like the phone company takes a cut when you order on the phone.
Make sure you call the right number. Grubhub (and others possibly) will set up phone numbers[0] and websites[1] controlled by them and forwarded to the restaurant so they can take a cut.
[0]https://www.theverge.com/2019/8/6/20756878/yelp-grubhub-comm...
[1] https://www.grubstreet.com/2019/07/everything-you-need-to-kn...
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Uber Eats in the USA, yes, it's more hands off in terms of gig workers. In the UK and Germany and many other countries though, there have been many court rulings to essentially ban gig-working and enforce employee protections.
What does a ban on gig working look like?
That workers must be essentially treated as employees and everything that comes with that, including the minimum wage
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The whole comment was about how hard it is to wrangle 10+ people. How is that digital, or not real life? It's literally a group of people spending time together face to face.
Being a host isn't hard at all. You just have to care and prepare. They are offloading their responsibilities and then complaining about friction. It is an extremely privileged and shallow take.
I didn't think I was complaing, just documenting my situation. I don't think having a cellphone and a credit card and friends and access to doordash puts me into some super privileged category among people posting here even if globally some people don't have running water or Internet.
Not sure how that makes me shallow but I'm all ears, I'd love to learn.
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Being a host isn't hard at all. You just have to care and prepare. They are offloading their responsibilities and then complaining about friction. It is an extremely privileged and shallow take.
I didn't think I was complaing, just documenting my situation. I don't think having a cellphone and a credit card and friends and access to doordash puts me into some super privileged category among people posting here even if globally some people don't have running water or Internet. Not sure how that makes me shallow but I'm all ears, I'd love to learn.
Maybe I'm reading into your actions and projecting my bias more than I intended.
When I used to order food through Uber eats I would always feel bad about it because the ultimate labor costs are abstracted through those layers of convenience.
If it is helpful, I consider fast online shipping to be unethical, and customer woes are misdirected at the wrong layer of abstraction, often ignoring the intensive labor costs because they are intentionally hidden.
Does that help explain my viewpoint?
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I didn't think I was complaing, just documenting my situation. I don't think having a cellphone and a credit card and friends and access to doordash puts me into some super privileged category among people posting here even if globally some people don't have running water or Internet. Not sure how that makes me shallow but I'm all ears, I'd love to learn.
Maybe I'm reading into your actions and projecting my bias more than I intended. When I used to order food through Uber eats I would always feel bad about it because the ultimate labor costs are abstracted through those layers of convenience. If it is helpful, I consider fast online shipping to be unethical, and customer woes are misdirected at the wrong layer of abstraction, often ignoring the intensive labor costs…
That doesn't address why I'm shallow for describing my lived experience, or my extreme privilege because I'm someone who has access to, and has used Doordash. If you don't use their platform then the delivery people on that platform aren't getting jobs and aren't getting paid. If you want to help them, tip them 50% in cash.
There is no ethical consumption under capitalism, unfortunately, and we all take our stand where we choose to. I could afford a better phone, but since smarphones have matured, I chose to buy refurbished phones because of the slavery inherent in their creation. Buying refurbished phones minimizes that as best I can while not giving up modern conveniences. Similarly, I'm happy to use a restaurant's app/website instead of Doordash when there is one, but one of my favorite restaurants is only on doordash (Ben's Fast Food, which is delicious healthy food with lots of greens, they just have a terrible name).
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Maybe I'm reading into your actions and projecting my bias more than I intended. When I used to order food through Uber eats I would always feel bad about it because the ultimate labor costs are abstracted through those layers of convenience. If it is helpful, I consider fast online shipping to be unethical, and customer woes are misdirected at the wrong layer of abstraction, often ignoring the intensive labor costs…
That doesn't address why I'm shallow for describing my lived experience, or my extreme privilege because I'm someone who has access to, and has used Doordash. If you don't use their platform then the delivery people on that platform aren't getting jobs and aren't getting paid. If you want to help them, tip them 50% in cash. There is no ethical consumption under capitalism, unfortunately, and we all take our stand whe…
Shallow and insecure, damn.
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That doesn't address why I'm shallow for describing my lived experience, or my extreme privilege because I'm someone who has access to, and has used Doordash. If you don't use their platform then the delivery people on that platform aren't getting jobs and aren't getting paid. If you want to help them, tip them 50% in cash. There is no ethical consumption under capitalism, unfortunately, and we all take our stand whe…
Shallow and insecure, damn.
Rude and mean, damn.