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Visualizing 13M Bluesky users

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Re: Visualizing 13M Bluesky users

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The mid-October bump was artists discovering that posting on Twitter allows them to use posts for training AI. https://bskycharts.edavis.dev/bluesky-year.html

If Bluesky is decentralized, can't twitter still train on Bluesky posts?

There’s arguably a moral difference between having your stuff stolen, and giving it up as part of the TOS. Most artists, you’d assume, would prefer the former.

Re: Visualizing 13M Bluesky users

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I'm part of the wave of users who migrated to bluesky last week. I have to say I really like it so far, which surprised me a bit given that I had been underwhelmed by mastodon before. I already spend more time in bluesky than in twitter. For those (like me) who don't know what bluesky is, it's basically a carbon copy of twitter circa 2015, down to an almost identical UI. Except that there's no monetization, no ads, n…

Given that Bluesky is VC funded, I imagine it'll just be a matter of time until the monetization, ads, and growth hacking start. Enjoy it while you can, I suppose.

Re: Visualizing 13M Bluesky users

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I'm part of the wave of users who migrated to bluesky last week. I have to say I really like it so far, which surprised me a bit given that I had been underwhelmed by mastodon before. I already spend more time in bluesky than in twitter. For those (like me) who don't know what bluesky is, it's basically a carbon copy of twitter circa 2015, down to an almost identical UI. Except that there's no monetization, no ads, n…

> it's basically a carbon copy of twitter circa 2015, down to an almost identical UI. Except that there's no monetization, no ads, no growth hacking, which means that in the main features are there to serve the user Wow, that's just like Mastodon.

BlueSky's big killer features that Mastodon fails at:

1) Better (optional) algorithmic feeds. Mastodon's "explore" is weaker than Bluesky's "popular with friends" and "discover"

2) Quote-tweets.

3) Easier onboarding. Mastodon forces you to care about which server you're on and it does matter and migrating later is hard. Meanwhile, BSky has "starter packs" that people can produce for each other with lists of users to follow to easily jump into a community.

4) Username-as-domain is better than the Mastodon "confirmed links in profile" thing for self-verified accounts.

I wish the properly-federated OSS community-funded one had won but I'll take either to be done with Twitter.

Re: Visualizing 13M Bluesky users

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I'm part of the wave of users who migrated to bluesky last week. I have to say I really like it so far, which surprised me a bit given that I had been underwhelmed by mastodon before. I already spend more time in bluesky than in twitter. For those (like me) who don't know what bluesky is, it's basically a carbon copy of twitter circa 2015, down to an almost identical UI. Except that there's no monetization, no ads, n…

I tried it, the tech seems cool but I'd like more diversity. Now that Twitter mostly is crypto scams and American far-right political nonsense, I'd like something a little more interesting than American far-left political nonsense. The world is much larger than American or Western internet drama, and there seems to be no way to escape it. As a European reading any mainstream social media, BlueSky included, makes me r…

If you are good about curating your follows, you can get a nice nonpolitical feed on Bluesky.

That said this is definitely not the week to try to calibrate that, since everyone currently has Big Feelings even if they're normally not overtly political.

Re: Visualizing 13M Bluesky users

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The best thing about Bluesky is you can use your domain as your username. I'm @bradgessler.com on there, so if people want to "verify" me, they see something more meaningful than a blue checkbox, which is my website. If I ever get blocked, banned, deplatformed, whatever—people would see my domain and be able to go there to determine what's going on. In a sense it's "censorship-evident". I think this will be great for…

Verifying your identity on Mastodon is for everyone as well and based on open web standards. https://joinmastodon.org/verification

Neat thing about BlueSky using DNS TXT record is I don't actually have to host a landing page. The way mastodon does it feels like a quid pro quo way of making you put a mastodon icon on your website. Bluesky is really good for corporate and government users who can get an @name.whitehouse.gov account or @name.npr.org etc without polluting the npr.org markup with a thousand "rel" links for each of their employees. I think bluesky is thinking about a different audience than mastodon.

Also I took a look at https://mastodonapp.uk/@stephenfry as an example of a verified profile and the UX is quite bad. Green check in a green box with a green border. The title tag just says "Website" and there's no indication of what it means.

Re: Visualizing 13M Bluesky users

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Fortunately using Bridgy Fed we can connect BlueSky with Fediverse and IndieWeb. https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy-fed/

can I get a ELI10 on this - If I host a mastodon server, would I need to run this software along side it then and then everyone on my server could see these other platforms posts and such?

Re: Visualizing 13M Bluesky users

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Bluesky and atproto seem to be built to be hackable. Someone in the community recently built a searchable directory of Bluesky "Starter Packs" (which are a way for a user to publish a set of interesting people & feeds to follow, primarily to help newcomers bootstrap their experience): https://blueskydirectory.com/starter-packs/all Dan Abramov posted about it earlier today, saying he liked it and: "the fact that it ca…

Yep, we intentionally built it to be hackable! We believe that social media will improve when people are free to build on it, change it, fork it, and remix it. Bluesky and the atproto ecosystem can evolve as fast as users and developers want them to.

Re: Visualizing 13M Bluesky users

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Hate speech or not, there is nothing pleasant about it. The irony is that the 'holier-than-thou' crowd, who are against hate and for love all over the world, overwhelmingly post negative political comments and are rooting for X/Twitter to collapse. This ^ is a good problem to solve in social networks.

It was about "hate speech" though, not "unpleasant speech", then you'd be right. Stop thinking in us/them, everybody hates someone or something and that's fine. That's not what hate speech is I think. Take one example from the Canadian govmnt: > The bill defines “hate speech” as the content of a communication that expresses detestation or vilification of an individual or group of individuals on the basis of a prohibi…

Sure, there are clear differences between hate speech and unpleasant speech. I can't disagree on the definition. But I’m seeing a lot of hateful anti-Trump posts on BlueSky, and on X/Twitter, there’s plenty of pro-Trump content. These two groups have polarized views, so they naturally clash.

What I find ironic is that BlueSky has many openly anti-Trump posts, while X/Twitter tends to have a significant amount of pro-Trump content. Because many minority and marginalized groups lean anti-Trump, again, these opposing viewpoints naturally clash, often leading to Twitter being labeled as a "hate speech platform". Yet on BlueSky, there’s no problem with people openly criticizing or spreading negativity about pro-Trump people. Since Trump supporters don’t typically fall into minority categories, it seems BlueSky users have the "privilege" to freely bash the Twitter crowd without facing the same scrutiny. Essentially, BlueSky is shielded from the hate speech label despite fostering a different kind of polarized environment.

Re: Visualizing 13M Bluesky users

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post #158

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I tried it, the tech seems cool but I'd like more diversity. Now that Twitter mostly is crypto scams and American far-right political nonsense, I'd like something a little more interesting than American far-left political nonsense. The world is much larger than American or Western internet drama, and there seems to be no way to escape it. As a European reading any mainstream social media, BlueSky included, makes me r…

If you are good about curating your follows, you can get a nice nonpolitical feed on Bluesky. That said this is definitely not the week to try to calibrate that, since everyone currently has Big Feelings even if they're normally not overtly political.

Fair enough. My issue is that it seems people have Big Feelings for one reason or another since 2015 and increasingly so. I really do not wish to have to work to train the "algo", especially when Twitter-like social media is worse than useless. It takes no time for my favourite people I follow to suddenly start spamming my timeline with the drama-du-jour.

On these social networks, either you are (un)willingly enlisted in the American Culture Wars, or you're best served not using them at all.

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