The DNC reminds me of the board a formerly successful company with good people - but has terrible management and keeps promoting unpopular leaders.
Trump wins presidency for second time
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Re: Trump wins presidency for second time
#162There might be a cultural issue here for the Dems. Many of the canvassers I met who were not retirees tended to be young women, often college-aged or a bit older, very liberal and very much benefitting directly from the economic status quo. To them, voting for anyone besides Harris was just completely insensible and they did not even bother to try and understand the views of anyone they spoke with (from what I could…
Dems won't change their strategy and probably won't have to, because after Trump is past his term limit the Republican party will be back to offering up wet noodles like Jeb and Romney, who won't be able to persuade the working class to vote. Against weaker less charismatic opponents, the poor strategy of the DNC will matter far less.
And everything will continue to suck for the working class. Trump won't actually succeed in fixing much of anything for them, even if he tries, and nobody else is even going to pretend to care. The DNC will continue to be the party for yuppies that sneers at uneducated working men while the RNC takes off the mask stops pretending to care about anything besides the managerial class and Christian/Zionism issues.
Re: Trump wins presidency for second time
#163There might be a cultural issue here for the Dems. Many of the canvassers I met who were not retirees tended to be young women, often college-aged or a bit older, very liberal and very much benefitting directly from the economic status quo. To them, voting for anyone besides Harris was just completely insensible and they did not even bother to try and understand the views of anyone they spoke with (from what I could…
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#164My theory: people are just hacked off that life is getting worse for most people while billionaires get richer and richer. Every disaster the wealthy get handouts while the poor have to pay for them. Government can no longer afford anything because all of its assets have been sold and rented back at a profit. I don’t think either campaign made any difference to the outcome of this election at all. In conclusion it mi…
Life is not getting worse for most people, at least not economically. See for example https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MEHOINUSA672N --- median real (i.e. inflation-adjusted) household income in the USA is at an all-time high, even though we had a pandemic.
I don't know why people believe otherwise. Maybe it's just rising expectations, fueled by rising inequality?
Re: Trump wins presidency for second time
#165From a game theoretical perspective this is a good result. It is a clear reiteration of the message to the Democrats: you won't win by claiming to be 0.1% less bad.
The Democrats should have fielded a strong personality in their own right. This is not about left or right. It's about mobilizing people by giving them something to care about. "More of the same" and "not like that guy" isn't very enticing.
I don't think the policy positions even matter that much, if you can make a strong case and gain the confidence of the electorate.
Re: Trump wins presidency for second time
#166As an American who grew from nothing, served in the military, and expanded in my career - I find the concerns for Democracy comical. Most of you do not understand the type of people that built and fought for democracy. There is no real fear amongst these same type of people in modern America.
See, this is a real problem in the US.
People assume that there's going to be some grand take-over event, a third-world coup d'état if you will.
In reality, modern democracies die slowly. Russia was once a democracy, now it's democracy on paper only. What will Americans do, when their courts are infringing their freedom?
Again, it happens slowly. Bit by bit, in the boring court rooms.
Re: Trump wins presidency for second time
#167There might be a cultural issue here for the Dems. Many of the canvassers I met who were not retirees tended to be young women, often college-aged or a bit older, very liberal and very much benefitting directly from the economic status quo. To them, voting for anyone besides Harris was just completely insensible and they did not even bother to try and understand the views of anyone they spoke with (from what I could…
> then they will have to learn to actually talk to people with opposing viewpoints
Why is there a different standard applied to one of the sides?
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#168There is a lot of "Don't believe that Republican voters are stupid" in the comments, but why is that true?
Why can't it be true that many people voted stupidly? As a third party to Brexit, it was apparent that many people voted stupidly.
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In my opinion, it's very simple. I became a one issue voter after one of the candidates tried to obstruct the process (violently), the last time. That's antithetical to America. It's ironic because it's the type of thing that happens in the "shithole countries" that we're so focused on keeping out (I say this as a person who thinks immigration reform with strong structure is long needed).
Rewarding Trump by giving him the keys is stupid if you can even muster the courage to say you believe in anything America stands for.
Re: Trump wins presidency for second time
#169From a game theoretical perspective this is a good result. It is a clear reiteration of the message to the Democrats: you won't win by claiming to be 0.1% less bad. The Democrats should have fielded a strong personality in their own right. This is not about left or right. It's about mobilizing people by giving them something to care about. "More of the same" and "not like that guy" isn't very enticing. I don't think…
I sincerely fear this will inject way too much inertia in wrong directions globally even if it sends a clear message to non right wing crowds.
Re: Trump wins presidency for second time
#170Is there some analysis why the polls didn't correctly predict the result? A failure in representative polls like this should be avoided with statistical methods.
It seems prediction markets did better on this one: https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/prediction-markets-suggest-...
(and this was while Biden was still in the race)