Ghost jobs are wreaking havoc on tech workers

Post by dang » Thu, Oct 31, 2024, 9:51 PM UTC

FreezerburnV wrote: post #126

dang wrote: post #85

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There's little enforcement happening in those threads anyway—they're too free-form, and manual intervention is too expensive. But adding a rule should hopefully still make a difference.

Would you be open to having people email if they send an application and get ghosted so that you can potentially take action on future hiring threads? (or stuff like the mentioned copy-pasted job posting that got caught in an argument) Since I know that emailing you is already the best way to ask for moderation help.

Post by CapstanRoller » Thu, Oct 31, 2024, 9:54 PM UTC

astrange wrote: post #61

lurking15 wrote: post #52

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It's an outrage once you work at these companies and behold the sheer dysfunction and they're all getting paid wages native American citizens would take.

The model that Americans would take any job if the wages were high enough is simple but obviously false. For manual labor there's no amount of money you could pay Americans to be farmworkers. For desk jobs there's no amount that'll overcome Americans' cultural belief that you can't do math unless you were born as a special sort of person who is "good at math".

Post by ryandrake » Thu, Oct 31, 2024, 9:57 PM UTC

astrange wrote: post #61

lurking15 wrote: post #52

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It's an outrage once you work at these companies and behold the sheer dysfunction and they're all getting paid wages native American citizens would take.

The model that Americans would take any job if the wages were high enough is simple but obviously false. For manual labor there's no amount of money you could pay Americans to be farmworkers. For desk jobs there's no amount that'll overcome Americans' cultural belief that you can't do math unless you were born as a special sort of person who is "good at math".

Post by johnnyanmac » Thu, Oct 31, 2024, 9:59 PM UTC

matt_heimer wrote: post #131

dang wrote: post #59

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It's against the rules to call out hiring companies in the thread, primarily because we don't want off-topic arguments and because it would be too easy to exploit it for shenanigans. But since people have been increasingly saying that this is a problem, let's do something about it. My current thought is to add a new instruction at the top asking companies to please only post in the thread if they're committed to resp…

Everyone? Applicants are using AI to mass apply for jobs. Not everyone deserves a response. Why not: Please only post jobs if you are committed to interviewing and filling the position in the next 3 months. Accounts posting the same job opening for 6 months may be banned. In this market if it takes 6+ months to find someone there is a fundamental problem with the opening. At the very least it should be: "Please only…

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Oct 31, 2024, 10:01 PM UTC

dang wrote: post #59

FireBeyond wrote: post #15

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Absolutely. And a lot of spam. A few months ago there was a little flame war between a few people. Company posted an ad and someone replied "this is spam, and you don't respond, just keep posting the same ad", and the company replied "no, I own the company and hand write this job ad every month to fit our future needs" which was patently a lie (exact same headcount, exact same three positions, every month for the las…

It's against the rules to call out hiring companies in the thread, primarily because we don't want off-topic arguments and because it would be too easy to exploit it for shenanigans. But since people have been increasingly saying that this is a problem, let's do something about it. My current thought is to add a new instruction at the top asking companies to please only post in the thread if they're committed to resp…