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Re: Smartphone buyers meh on AI, care more about battery life

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Post by piyush_soni »

ffsm8 wrote: post #114
mondobe wrote: post #3

I have a hard time seeing how this isn't obvious. 95% of everyday AI needs (for the people that even bother to interact with it) are covered by ChatGPT, and most of that is the same stuff that Google was handling before. From personal experience, the only thing that changed when replacing the "old" Google Assistant with the Gemini-powered one on my Pixel was that it's no longer able to create reminders.

The only thing that changed for me was a that it couldn't control my smart Home devices anymore, nor activate navigation, nor send messages via Whatsapp (I.e. while driving). Literally every thing I used it for got answered via "I cannot do that yet" after it randomly opted me into that. Pure garbage.

Then why are you using it? I tried using Gemini once on my Pixel 6. Couldn't play music on Youtube music on verbal instructions, I switched back to Google Assistant. Will try it again after 6 months now. :)

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Post by rsynnott »

Today in incredibly obvious things...

Smartphones are an absolute graveyard of fads; remember the 3D screen phones, the phones with projectors, and so forth? They generally go nowhere. I suspect 'AI' on phones will be similar.

Overwhelmingly, what people want out of phones is "like my current phone, but with better battery life and maybe a better camera." Previously 'faster' was also a concern, but modern phones are largely Good Enough.

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Post by TeMPOraL »

piyush_soni wrote: post #161
ffsm8 wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only thing that changed for me was a that it couldn't control my smart Home devices anymore, nor activate navigation, nor send messages via Whatsapp (I.e. while driving). Literally every thing I used it for got answered via "I cannot do that yet" after it randomly opted me into that. Pure garbage.

Then why are you using it? I tried using Gemini once on my Pixel 6. Couldn't play music on Youtube music on verbal instructions, I switched back to Google Assistant. Will try it again after 6 months now. :)

Isn't that obvious? They tried to switch back to Google Assistant, but each time they asked Gemini, it said it can't do that yet!

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Post by bluGill »

jeffbee wrote: post #12
mondobe wrote: post #3

I have a hard time seeing how this isn't obvious. 95% of everyday AI needs (for the people that even bother to interact with it) are covered by ChatGPT, and most of that is the same stuff that Google was handling before. From personal experience, the only thing that changed when replacing the "old" Google Assistant with the Gemini-powered one on my Pixel was that it's no longer able to create reminders.

I just asked my Pixel to remind me next Tuesday to pick the bananas, and it set that in Google Tasks. Which part of this doesn't work?

I want the reminder not on my device, but on my work computer which I'll be staring at when I need the reminder. Or in the bananas case I want bananas sent to our shared family grocery app (which isn't a google service) so that if my wife happens to be going by a store tomorrow she knows to stop and get some along with flour or whatever else we need to stock up on.

Re: Smartphone buyers meh on AI, care more about battery life

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Post by [deleted] »

candiddevmike wrote: post #128
est31 wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Computational photography uses AI a lot (next to parametric approaches), and without these algorithms, smartphone cameras would be quite shitty. People do care about that. AI isn't just LLM chatbots.

How do I disable that? I'm having a horrifying realization that all of my pictures are "fake" in the sense that they don't match what I saw/experienced. Maybe it's time to get back into Polaroids.

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Re: Smartphone buyers meh on AI, care more about battery life

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Post by bobro »

aiono wrote: post #102

AI companies are desperately trying to find actual use cases but it seems like there is not that much to justify current investment.

It’s been enough time now that we should really have a handful of very clear use cases, but we just don’t.

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Post by radlad »

swatcoder wrote: post #151
itsoktocry wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm much more excited to have help finding that goofy picture of my cat by describing what I remember, so I can share it with a friend, than I am to have some chatbot dialog about entry-level Python with a hallucinating parlor trick. Hasn't Google been doing this forever? I can search random things in my photos (like pictures of an old car I owned).

For a bit, and to a degree, yes. Last-decade image recognition and tagging teased what might be possible and is genuinely useful. The new LLM-ish tools promise that users can be more vague and casual in what language they use and more elaborate in how specific they mean to be; and that the queries (and operations) can span more diverse data sources.

Are there examples of new tools based on recent AI advancements that perform better than Google Photos image recognition?

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Post by recursive »

jonplackett wrote: post #125
devindotcom wrote: post #76

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This data is in the article >So does that mean 75% _do_ find AI Feature helpful? 14% find it helpful >Are 55% happy to pay a monthly fee? 6% are willing to pay >66% have no privacy concerns? no stat on this but I think we can assume based on the others that it is not split evenly because that was not the methodology

Thanks. That’s clearer! Ok my next comeback - people are treating AI tools like a musical instrument. It’s like picking up a guitar for the first time, twanging a few strings and saying ‘Nah, this sounds shit’. Guitars are useless. I’d never pay for a guitar. Even chatGPT has a learning curve. I save myself hours or days per day using it for all sorts of things. Anyone who says they can’t find a use for AI is just la…

Lazy? Is it a moral failing not to be interested in playing the guitar? I have no interest in guitar music, so why should I "try hard"?

Re: Smartphone buyers meh on AI, care more about battery life

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Post by izzydata »

candiddevmike wrote: post #128
est31 wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Computational photography uses AI a lot (next to parametric approaches), and without these algorithms, smartphone cameras would be quite shitty. People do care about that. AI isn't just LLM chatbots.

How do I disable that? I'm having a horrifying realization that all of my pictures are "fake" in the sense that they don't match what I saw/experienced. Maybe it's time to get back into Polaroids.

I recently bought a real camera partially for this reason. I don't even mind how inconvenient it can be at times because honestly taking photos with a full camera rather than your phone is fun. While on the phone it has become quite dull in my opinion.

But knowing that the phone does a lot of software tweaking to get a picture to look similar to how good a full camera is made me want to switch. I think this was around the time that article about Samsung basically replacing a photo of the moon.

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