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Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by jayd16 »

dagmx wrote: post #115
latexr wrote: post #7

> Be it by train or by plane, it offers an unparalleled opportunity to selectively tune out your environment and sink into an engaging activity like watching a movie or just working on your laptop. The more time passes, the less I can shake the feeling that the world would be better if we tuned out our environment less. > But damn, based on how well it all works now, you can just tell by the 4th or 5th generation, Ap…

What environment on a plane would someone be better out not tuning out? It’s a multi hour flight. I don’t know anyone around me, most are asleep. Many people already tune out the noise with their noise cancelling audio products. Why would it be weird to tune out the visuals too? The Vision Pro lets me also see people while wearing it and they can see my eyes. If I’m tuned out and someone approaches me they fade throu…

Well they probably mean it would be nice if people were bored enough to be friendly.

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Post by bentcorner »

chasd00 wrote: post #85
bentcorner wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Weirdly enough I love being on a plane (and airports). There's something psychologically freeing about them that I feel whenever I fly. I look forward to flying so much. And it's not like I'm flying first class or anything - I fly economy every time. Maybe if I flew more frequently I'd grow to dislike it (I fly maybe once a year), but honestly airports and flying are my favorite part of a trip (yes, I like them more…

I don't like flying that much but airports are an interesting place. I like people watching and just the spectacle of it all. There's some funny tweets about airports like: "The airport is a lawless place, want to get drunk at 7AM? Go right ahead. Tired? Just sleep on the floor. Chips cost $15". edit: came back to post this, i definitely get an odd feeling of liberation once i'm at an airport. I travel sometimes for…

> I travel sometimes for work and once i get in to the airport waiting to board I feel like work and every day life ceases for a time and i'm free to do whatever.

Yes, this is very much how I feel. 0 responsibilities and there's nothing I can actually accomplish during my time there. I just sit there reading a book or something, just waiting.

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Post by frankvdwaal »

keiferski wrote: post #60
latexr wrote: post #7

> Be it by train or by plane, it offers an unparalleled opportunity to selectively tune out your environment and sink into an engaging activity like watching a movie or just working on your laptop. The more time passes, the less I can shake the feeling that the world would be better if we tuned out our environment less. > But damn, based on how well it all works now, you can just tell by the 4th or 5th generation, Ap…

> The more time passes, the less I can shake the feeling that the world would be better if we tuned out our environment less. Agreed 100%. Apologies for linking to my own essay, but I think this can be more generally stated as a difference between "isolated" and "integrated" arts. A device like the Vision Pro (and most tech devices, for that matter) is pushing society further and further into isolated chambers, and t…

I have a little unproven hypothesis that fits that last statement, that it would be absurd for a company like Apple to bring people together in the real world.

My hypothesis is that these companies want to make money by "taking" your senses. They want your attention to be with them at all times, by being in your ear so you'll hear them, by being on your wrist so you'll feel them, by being on your eyes so you'll see them.

I'm thinking these companies are building up technological ecosystems - Apple's specialty! - that they hope will eventually form a proxy for you to experience reality. Because if they can convince you to experience life through them, they'll have your wallet too.

Maybe it's just a silly thought of mine, but it kind of fits.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by dkdbejwi383 »

dwaite wrote: post #140
tsimionescu wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even in the US, most people (50+% of the population) certainly doesn't regularly (say, more than once a decade) travel by plane.

Families tend to get spread out and vacations tend to be very short. There is a strong encouragement to meet for recognized holidays, so these are by far the busiest times at airports. Last year, the prediction was 4.7 million people in the US traveling by plane over the thanksgiving holiday, which demolishes the 1% comment immediately.

4.7m is ~0.05% of ~8bn

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by jayd16 »

DutchRanger wrote: post #18

I take out my earbuds even saying Hi to the bus driver I can't imagine talking to a flight attendant while wearing a VR device. It seems very uninterested in the person you are talking to. Could be just me but I think a lot of older generations share this experience. It is not hard to take out your earbuds or take off your VR device to show you are paying attention to the person you are talking to.

It actually is a real pain to put the headset on and off frequently. Much, much more so than earbuds. It's a major UX issue.

I don't even really see people take off headphones in this scenario, just uncovering an ear. It would be fairly hilarious to see someone lift up one side of an AR headset to make (singular) eye contact, tho.

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Post by scudsworth »

>The fact that you just look at the buttons that you’d like to interact with and pinch your fingers while your hand is resting on your lap is a massive plus for not looking like a dweeb.

i dunno. repeatedly making little pinchies in your lap with your $3500 goggles on still seems very dweeb-coded to me. i almost did a spit take when i looked up how much the vision pro costs, lol

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Post by wizardofaz »

sylens wrote: post #27

Just reading this blog makes me feel like it is actually not a great device to travel with. For me, a good travel device is one that takes up minimal room when packing to the point where it becomes easy to forget I even have it in my bag. The Vision Pro typically requires its own dedicated spot on top of your carry on as you go through the airport - kind of the opposite. The author talks about just packing it with a…

The author (me) specifically recommends to not buy the bulky travel case from Apple and instead, just use the default front cover + a lens protector.

This is specifically to not to take up any extra room than is necessary. The only room it takes up is essentially the width of the HMD itself (even negating the strap)!

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Post by michaelt »

goalieca wrote: post #37
nordsieck wrote: post #31

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> The more time passes, the less I can shake the feeling that the world would be better if we tuned out our environment less. That may or may not be true in general, but air travel is one of the most oppressive environments people regularly find themselves in. Being in an extremely crowded environment with very little personal space is psychologically uncomfortable for a lot of people. And it's basically not possible…

> most oppressive environments people regularly find themselves in. It's boring but not oppressive. It's okay to let the mind wander without completely disconnecting yourself from reality.

The flying experience is oppressive in the sense of being a constricting, heavy-handed and overbearing environment, indifferent to your inconvenience or discomfort.

Where else can you get a full body cavity search, be denied water, be delayed by several hours without so much as an apology, be nickle-and-dimed with overpriced shitty food and $5 fees for a cab to drop you off, and have your luggage smashed up, all under one roof?

Of course, I'm not sure the Apple Vision Pro can do much to improve on the situation.

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Post by wizardofaz »

Takennickname wrote: post #83

I burst out laughing when I saw the size of VR screen is the same size as the screen on the chair in front of him.

It can be any size that you’d like.

In fact, the virtual display is higher resolution/high scaled than 13 inch MacBook (source: https://azadux.blog/2024/10/08/traveling-with-apple-vision-p...)

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by mtalantikite »

bbor wrote: post #61
mtalantikite wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I generally agree with this sentiment of people being too tethered to technology and not paying attention to the world around them, but I don't see a problem with it on a flight. You're generally going to be seated in one place for hours at a time. It's much more infuriating to be walking out of the subway here in NYC and people are just in zombie mode walking up the stairs slowly while staring at their phones. Or do…

Well put! Though I would argue that the issue being discussed is not short-term distraction in highly dangerous situations like driving a car or sharing a sidewalk in NYC, but rather the long-term psychological effects of filling every spare moment with entertainment. Ever since being forced to bus an hour+ to high school (sans smart phone! Can you imagine?!) I've learned to appreciate what long stretches of contempl…

> but rather the long-term psychological effects of filling every spare moment with entertainment.

Oh, for sure. I mean I'm in my 40s and have never owned a TV and have spent every morning with my meditation practice for a very long time. Even on 14+ hour flights I tend to just sit there, maybe listening to music a bit, but largely doing my meditation practice. I'm totally on board with people being present in their environments.

But of all the places for someone to use something like the Vision Pro, an airplane seems totally reasonable to me. I'm much more concerned with people needing to scroll TikTok while on the escalator at Whole Foods and what that says about society than someone watching a movie on an international flight!

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