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Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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Google is going to have to solve for this somehow if they want to remain relevant, right? If searching for an image and generating the image yield the same result, what's the point of image search any more?

They're more likely to solve it so that you can't tell the baby peacocks are AI-generated

Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

#163

Almost all of the "product X vs Y" results are AI ramblings now. This growth of the dead Internet is making me want to sign up for Kagi. We're going to need a certification for human generated content at some point.

We need certification for human generated content for yesterday. Not only that, we desperately need cryptographic prof that content X was produced by person Y.

How can that ever work in a world filled with people that are eager to lie to you?

Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

#164

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Sure but doesn't every technological development have these tradeoffs? You could say what you say about anyone at any time. Where do you draw the line? I guarantee you'll be guilty of the exact same thing. I don't want to generalize, but IMO this sentiment of yours, I hear most loudly from software engineers far removed from ordinary non-technical end users: is making beautiful new LISPs and CNIs and Python package a…

Every technical advancement has tradeoffs. Not every technical advancement has billions of dollars sloshing around doing absolutely nothing except making the web worse and further ruining the environment. What a shockingly bad-faith way to interpret GP's argument, wow.

The comment is an interesting but very cookie cutter sort of vamp and drama. The comment trades in a bunch of generalization, much like yours, and you know, generalization doesn't feel good when it directly attacks you.

I don't sincerely believe that people who are working on Kubernetes features or observability tools are bad people. Do high drama personalities who engage in a mode of discourse of "wow" and "shockingly" say valid things too? Yeah. But it's as simple as, log in your own eye before you worry about the thorns in others. Exceptionally ironic because the poster is vamping about "Attribution errors." Another POV is, shysters project.

Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

#165

I wonder: do all the HNers who are excited about their GenAI product or wrapper or startup understand, at a fundamental level, that they are an intrinsic part of this deterioration? Or is this one of those fundamental attribution error things: - MY product is a powerful tool for creators who wish to save time - THEIR product is just a poorly-though-out slop generator Does it occur to people to instead be part of some…

Unfortunately your comment is doing the same thing, just at a different level—something like this:

- I am a thoughtful technologist, building real things for real people, concerned about others and the social impact of my work;

- they are greedy and ignorant, destroying society for short-term personal gain, no matter what the consequences.

It's human nature to put badness on an abstract them, but we don't get anywhere that way. It's good for getting agreement (e.g. upvotes), because we all put ourselves in that sweet I bucket and participate in the down-with-them feeling. But it only leads to more of what everyone decries.

Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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Even Google is trying to get into the X vs Y game, with pretty funny results if you ask for a nonsensical comparison. https://x.com/samhenrigold/status/1843040235325964549 ...or a sensical comparison where it just completely misses the point. https://i.imgur.com/FotFZ3F.jpeg

Couldn't reproduce - in fact, the second hit is a threads version of the same post - but I get no AI suggestions for this query. Humorous Google queries (or AI queries more generally) are definitely a trope, so I can never really tell if they actually happened or if it's all for karma.

I still get the second one when I search "Difference between sauce and dressing" on Google. The Oven vs Ottoman empire one I don't get an AI overview.

Edit: Similar to the second one I just did Panda Bear vs Australia which informed me "Australians value authenticity, sincerity, and modesty. Giant pandas are solitary and peaceful, but will fight back if escape is impossible. "

Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

#167

Drives me nuts. The internet is dead. I just bought a home and I have been googling the best way to tackle certain home improvement projects - like how to prepare trim for painting. Virtually every result is some kind of content farm of AI-generated bullshit with advertising between every paragraph, an autoplay video (completely unrelated) that scrolls with the page, a modal popup asking me to accept cookies, a secon…

For this kind of search, YouTube and TikTok (yes, TikTok) are your best bet. Videos are not (completely) flooded by AI (yet) and you can find pretty much anything about manual work.

I prefer text content to videos by a long shot, but genuine, human text content is almost dead. Reddit might be one of the rare exceptions for now. There are also random, still active, old school forums for lots of things but they tend to become extremely hard to find.

Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

#168

Drives me nuts. The internet is dead. I just bought a home and I have been googling the best way to tackle certain home improvement projects - like how to prepare trim for painting. Virtually every result is some kind of content farm of AI-generated bullshit with advertising between every paragraph, an autoplay video (completely unrelated) that scrolls with the page, a modal popup asking me to accept cookies, a secon…

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Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

#169

Someone needs to invent a “for humans, by humans” web. Possibly a future luxury.

There was this image that was circling some 20 years ago around and later, with the Internet becoming a cable tv-like service where you'd be a subscriber to particular big companies sites and additional "free-range" pages

So the pessimist in me can see the Internet being affected by the free-vs-premium formula: "basic" Internet with ads, tracking, AI fillers, limited access to +18 content, in the worst form comes with these pre-defined sites and "premium" that's free of these limitations but it also in time tries to squeeze more money from users - like "premium but with ads"

Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

#170

I wonder: do all the HNers who are excited about their GenAI product or wrapper or startup understand, at a fundamental level, that they are an intrinsic part of this deterioration? Or is this one of those fundamental attribution error things: - MY product is a powerful tool for creators who wish to save time - THEIR product is just a poorly-though-out slop generator Does it occur to people to instead be part of some…

There's a sort of "technological fundamental attribution error" that comes into play a lot with new technologies. Every past technology has, whatever its benefits to humanity, become substantially tarnished by abuse and malicious use. But this one won't be! Promise!

That said, I don't really think this is a tide any individual market actor can reasonably stem. It's going to require some pretty fundamental changes in the way we use the internet.

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