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Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by codetrotter »

gk1 wrote: post #118
rty32 wrote: post #105

> “Powered by the faster, more efficient A18 Pro chip and built for Apple Intelligence, iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max are the most advanced iPhone models we’ve ever made,” said Greg Joswiak, Apple’s senior vice president of Worldwide Marketing. Thanks Greg, that's very helpful information.

As much as I can’t stand marketing phrases like “the most advanced we’ve ever made” or “the most powerful yet” — because it should go without saying that the newest thing you’re releasing is also the most of anything — the fact that companies keep using it suggests it actually works to market the thing.

> the newest thing you’re releasing is also the most of anything

Well, they also regularly release lower specced models for people who don’t want, don’t need or can’t afford the Pro or Pro Max iPhones.

And on the other hand you have people who need the best or want the best.

And it’s helpful to both kind of people to know that ok the Pro and Pro Max are the most powerful ones.

And while it might seem “obvious” to you and me that Pro and Pro Max are the most powerful iPhones, there’s a lot of people that don’t regularly stay on top of what models exist of iPhones.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by wrcwill »

throwaway290 wrote: post #9
jsheard wrote: post #4

The non-Pro models are still only 60hz? C'mon man, high refresh rate is hardly a luxury feature anymore. At least give them 90hz and reserve 120hz for the Pro models.

PWM probably too? I keep waiting for the return of sweet smooth LCD but I guess my 11 is the last model...

yup, ill keep using the 11/se until they stop using pwm for their oled screens (most oled tvs can dc dimming just fine)

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by dmix »

> Featuring a new 48MP Fusion camera with a faster quad-pixel sensor that enables 4K120 fps video recording in Dolby Vision, these new Pro models achieve the highest resolution and frame-rate combination ever available on iPhone

Every iPhone generation makes YouTube video quality slightly better as it’s what a lot of people use. That plus social media.

Camera quality is quite amazing these days

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

thih9 wrote: post #142
swyx wrote: post #113

i clipped the 5 mins on apple intelligence here for those interested https://x.com/swyx/status/1833231875537850659 notes: - photos/album search now includes video understanding, which imo seems very good from the first 2 examples they showed. includes scroll to exact time of the moment you describe. - Mail and Notifications will show summaries instead of str[:x] - Siri now knows iPhone, becomes the ultimate manual on…

> "all done on device" and on cloud The real indicator for me is: how many of these features are not available in the EU due to privacy concerns. Do we know that?

> real indicator for me is: how many of these features are not available in the EU due to privacy concerns

Lawyers and lobbyists are still getting their heads around the EU's AI Act [1].

[1] https://artificialintelligenceact.eu/high-level-summary/

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by kube-system »

ashconnor wrote: post #5

Shocked they are still using 128GB as the starting storage size.

Why is that shocking? Delivering a base model with minimal specs and upcharging for the specs that power-users need is Apple's standard way of doing business. If you want to store more, you pay more, either by buying more expensive models, or by subscribing to iCloud.

This pricing strategy is intentional in the way it is limiting to encourage people to buy more expensive models.

They don't offer 128gb as the base tier because they think it will meet everyone's needs. They offer that as the base tier because they think it won't meet everyone's needs. An ideal pricing strategy captures as many sales as possible while also upcharging as many people as possible who would be willing to pay more.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by playa1 »

veber-alex wrote: post #74
minimaxir wrote: post #51

The Pro variant is unusually poorly differentiated from the base model this cycle: https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/ The 13 Pro had ProMotion, 14 Pro had Dynamic Island and Always On display, the 15 Pro had USB-C and the Action Button, the 16 Pro...has maybe slightly faster AI? 4k120fps video? USB-C w/ USB 3? Not things most people would care about. ProMotion/Always On is still limited to the Pro models which is…

The 16 Pro has a bigger display. Each model now has a different display size. You can choose between 6.1", 6.3", 6.7" and 6.9"

I would be fine with the Pro models getting larger screens if they would shrink the standard phone. I'm still trying to survive with my 12 mini for as long as possible until the battery dies. I tried a standard iPhone 15 for two weeks last year and I wasn't happy with the larger size and returned it.

The mini was a great form factor, fits in more pockets comfortably and the whole screen is within reach of my thumb when using the phone one-handed.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by nox101 »

steve_adams_86 wrote: post #127
paxys wrote: post #82

Smaller notch? Touch ID? Better battery life? Faster charging? Larger default storage? Nope, let's skip all that and spend most of the event talking about video recording. Is anyone here actually excited about the features they just announced? Or are people simply upgrading because they get the latest iPhone every year or two by default?

I got the 15 pro because of an offer through my wife's work (it made it ridiculously cheap and seemed like the right opportunity to replace my 3 year old SE), and worried I'd have a bit of FOMO with the 16 a month away from release. I really don't care. The 15 pro is so much phone, I can't imagine it lasting less than my SE. And frankly I only upgraded due to the limited time opportunity and knowing my son could use…

I got the 15 mostly for USB-C. I still have cable hell because my AirPods are lightning so sometimes I need USB-C -> lightning and sometimes I need USB-A -> lightning

I might get an Airpod 4 for the USB-C though the Airpod 3 sucked and I'm suspecting the Airpod 4 is just as bad. Falls out (compared to Airpod 2). Pinch to play/pause/que sucks compared to Tap to play/pause/cue. Several friends had similar experiences including several friends that work at Apple. All of them returned their Airpod 3s.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by callalex »

schmidtleonard wrote: post #137
swyx wrote: post #113

i clipped the 5 mins on apple intelligence here for those interested https://x.com/swyx/status/1833231875537850659 notes: - photos/album search now includes video understanding, which imo seems very good from the first 2 examples they showed. includes scroll to exact time of the moment you describe. - Mail and Notifications will show summaries instead of str[:x] - Siri now knows iPhone, becomes the ultimate manual on…

This is good but... all I wanted for Christmas was anti-spam that didn't suck donkey balls. Sigh.

They don’t prevent spam abuse through their app push notifications, and don’t even offer a way to report bad behavior. They are pro-spam.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

eptcyka wrote: post #160
thih9 wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "all done on device" and on cloud The real indicator for me is: how many of these features are not available in the EU due to privacy concerns. Do we know that?

Privacy concerns? They're just trying to bully the EU. There's no legal or technical reason iOS 18's remote access features wouldn't work in EU, but alas, they do not.

> no legal or technical reason iOS 18's remote access features wouldn't work in EU

How do you know that? (How much of your net worth are you willing to bet on it?)

Between GDPR, the DMA and now the AI Act, there is a lot of unique regulatory cross section that Apple has in the EU. It would be surprising if there weren't additional legal checks it had to do, internally and on its suppliers, before launching a product or feature in the EU.

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