Breaking Down OnlyFans' Economics

Post by [deleted] » Fri, Sep 13, 2024, 9:10 AM UTC

bad_user wrote: post #142

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> If you sell your body, most societies will punish you. Thats [sic] fine, […] How is that 'fine'? I would like to see a future where someone doing sex work to make ends meet (or even as a freely chosen profession!) is not ostracised for it. Sex is part of society whether you want it or not, and so is paying for sexual acts.

I would like to see a future where people shouldn't have to prostitute themselves to make ends meet. Some cultural norms are outdated, but prostitution is still degrading and dangerous for those practicing it, especially for the women; who may not be doing so willingly, prostitution being the main incentive for human trafficking. And the online medium doesn't change that by much. Some people may be willing to pay for…

Post by duggan » Fri, Sep 13, 2024, 9:14 AM UTC

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Payment is the hardest part in this space. Somehow OnlyFans had the privilege to use Stripe for all their transactions. It's beyond knowing the business model, I guess the founder were at the right place and right time and knew the right people to make this venture succeed. Also, the marketing, how the heck did these guy blow up so fast. The funds for marketing and all, it's not cheap!

If someone has a serious pitch to the tune of "I've got enough leverage with key players in Stripe to make an adult site work", everything afterwards would get pretty easy. Finding money to advertise is no problem, these sites are in a great position if they can work around the payment systems. The difficulty becomes the moat.

Post by ht85 » Fri, Sep 13, 2024, 9:16 AM UTC

lynx23 wrote: post #122

braza wrote: post #118

Not a moralistic take, but one issue that interests me is the second-order impacts associated with the long tail of producers in OF who do not make a career from it. With traditional adult entertainment, creators are aware of the social ramifications (e.g., social stigma, familial ostracism, difficulty dealing with the future, and so on), and there is a decent theoretical economic framework to measure that. I am not…

Well, those civilians who can think for themselves, especially about the consequences of their actions, are clearly in advantage. I am lacking empathy for those who are apparently so hooked up to the here-and-now that they seem to ignore the future. If you sell your body, most societies will punish you. Thats fine, societies have all sorts of norms we all need to learn.

Post by mgaunard » Fri, Sep 13, 2024, 9:22 AM UTC

beaglesss wrote: post #143

Freak_NL wrote: post #130

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> If you sell your body, most societies will punish you. Thats [sic] fine, […] How is that 'fine'? I would like to see a future where someone doing sex work to make ends meet (or even as a freely chosen profession!) is not ostracised for it. Sex is part of society whether you want it or not, and so is paying for sexual acts.

Society accepting sex work is the worst thing that can happen to sex workers. They can have their cake and eat it right now -- not terribly illegal in the west but shunned which limits competition. When it becomes fine, it will be worth no more than someone coming to mow your lawn, and probably less than that.

Post by lynx23 » Fri, Sep 13, 2024, 9:24 AM UTC

ht85 wrote: post #166

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Well, those civilians who can think for themselves, especially about the consequences of their actions, are clearly in advantage. I am lacking empathy for those who are apparently so hooked up to the here-and-now that they seem to ignore the future. If you sell your body, most societies will punish you. Thats fine, societies have all sorts of norms we all need to learn.

> I am lacking empathy for those who are apparently so hooked up to the here-and-now A large amount of those people are very young, at an age where you don't really pick your options solely on their super long term consequences. Most people are going to be "stupid" in their early adulthood, failing and adjusting is a big part of it. Unfortunately, some of those decisions will stick more than others and sex work is ve…