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How immigration remade the U.S. labor force

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Re: How immigration remade the U.S. labor force

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I think you meant all. All moves when disaster comes. Meanwhile where there is food there is no need to move.

some people are farmers

Farmers move too when disaster comes. You are out of job, out of food, you move.

Meanwhile where there is food there is no need to move.

Re: How immigration remade the U.S. labor force

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But for someone who has, the door is wide wide wide open.

Yes and if you have 10 million dollars you have options for wealth immigration, the door is wide wide open. Do you think that makes immigration to the USA incredibly easy?

wealth immigration is the productivity path not family path

Re: How immigration remade the U.S. labor force

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Because when someone goes British and Russians "same culture, same history, same values"... And ends it with America is "high trust" like as if they never heard of Japan... And I still can't leave a darn Chromebook in the library for a 5min toilet break without losing it because the trust is so high.

Japan is an exception I'll give you that. I live in a suburban town I can leave my stuff at a table and go to the restroom with no worries. what do you think the difference between my town and yours is?

> suburban town

The difference is that one is a town and the other isn't. A town has barely any people. Just because you can leave your stuff at home does not make the country a high-trust country. Among countries US is a low-trust country.

> Japan is an exception

Japan is not the exception. It isn't even the leader, just a well-known and famous country. I encourage you to travel a bit and escape the echo chamber of Douglas Murray books and other western culture supremacists. Stop reading and start seeing. You will be shocked to find at least 100 high-trust cultures and will understand why your standards were that low.

Re: How immigration remade the U.S. labor force

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That's not how it works. It depends on whether (how much) they are paid and if so what do they buy with that payment. Are they settled in US buying pizzas and Netflix? Because if not, then investments to Nigeria past $x will grant it the upperhand since all that money can get you another doctor and more.

https://www.bmj.com/content/381/bmj.p1234

5 years is truly a big kill. looks like its a reaction to 99% of them refusing to send money back home and invest in Nigeria, preferring to buy-US and -Europe.

Re: How immigration remade the U.S. labor force

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55% of American unicorn startups have at least one immigrant founder. Are you saying all those companies would still exist if there was no immigration? Extending the same logic, the British colonies never needed to be established. Native Americans would have started Nvidia on their own eventually. (“Silicon Cahokia?”)

> 55% of American unicorn startups dubious and meaningless metric > Native Americans would have started Nvidia on their own eventually. (“Silicon Cahokia?”) doubtful. It takes Western Civilization culture to build great things. It's why every other culture wants to immigrate to Western civilization and no one wants to immigrate in the reverse direction.

Men move where they think the money/food is. Being "western" does not allow the country to attract more but less. Nevertheless men did still move where the money/food is including perhaps to Antarctica where they didn't make it eventually, but did so in so many other continents.

> takes Western Civilization culture to build great things

That's crazy talk often uttered by supremacist [killers] who refuse to read history, thinking that Americans invented guns while knowing nothing of Suez canals, Congolese hands, Opium wars. Before the industrial revolution, the "barbarians" were not even on the map. It does take one from a superior culture to come to US and understand the people to know what mcbc (term I coined for "money cannot buy culture") means.

[btw you can give a baby all the land and oil in the world, that makes it rich, not cultured] [at least Genghis Khan doesn't go around pretending that he has learned culture]

Re: How immigration remade the U.S. labor force

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post #151

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Your argument is in the wrong direction: enforcing a liveable federal minimum wage ensures that there's a reasonable bottom to how low you can bid on labour. The housing crisis, on the other hand, is a net supply restriction effect caused by real estate speculation and investment, rather than it being a commodity (it never will be a commodity, but I'd wager there's a real estate bubble pop coming soon)

At the end of the day the Earth's resources are very much finite. We simply can't have indefinite growth, so it doesn't make sense to use it as a metric.

> finite

Sure, everything is finite, but 8 billion is too little. Earth can fit 8 trillion and more, all we need is more science.

Re: How immigration remade the U.S. labor force

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> Immigration has lifted U.S. population growth to almost 1.2% a year, the highest since the early 1990s. Without it, the U.S. population would be growing 0.2% a year Population growth is always announced as a great thing but is this really the case ? For instance, house price are increasing because more and more people wants it, it also prevent salary from increasing because there are always people without job looki…

Your argument is in the wrong direction: enforcing a liveable federal minimum wage ensures that there's a reasonable bottom to how low you can bid on labour. The housing crisis, on the other hand, is a net supply restriction effect caused by real estate speculation and investment, rather than it being a commodity (it never will be a commodity, but I'd wager there's a real estate bubble pop coming soon)

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Re: How immigration remade the U.S. labor force

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post #151

> Immigration has lifted U.S. population growth to almost 1.2% a year, the highest since the early 1990s. Without it, the U.S. population would be growing 0.2% a year Population growth is always announced as a great thing but is this really the case ? For instance, house price are increasing because more and more people wants it, it also prevent salary from increasing because there are always people without job looki…

Your argument is in the wrong direction: enforcing a liveable federal minimum wage ensures that there's a reasonable bottom to how low you can bid on labour. The housing crisis, on the other hand, is a net supply restriction effect caused by real estate speculation and investment, rather than it being a commodity (it never will be a commodity, but I'd wager there's a real estate bubble pop coming soon)

Enforcing ubi ensures that there's a reasonable bottom to how low you can bid on labour.

Enforcing minimum wage however is problematic because it is an artificial level. It simply further creates two classes of people, the hired and the unhired.

Re: How immigration remade the U.S. labor force

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post #151

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Your argument is in the wrong direction: enforcing a liveable federal minimum wage ensures that there's a reasonable bottom to how low you can bid on labour. The housing crisis, on the other hand, is a net supply restriction effect caused by real estate speculation and investment, rather than it being a commodity (it never will be a commodity, but I'd wager there's a real estate bubble pop coming soon)

Enforcing ubi ensures that there's a reasonable bottom to how low you can bid on labour. Enforcing minimum wage however is problematic because it is an artificial level. It simply further creates two classes of people, the hired and the unhired.

Enforcing an understanfing of economics, motivation and thinking beyond a first order effect usually ensures people understand why ubi os a bad idea....

Re: How immigration remade the U.S. labor force

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There are a few serial trolls who frequently create new accounts to post like that. We ban them and then they create new accounts—such is the cycle of TrollLife. It's best to abide by ancient wisdom and not feed them by replying.

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