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Re: Zed AI

#161

Post by adoxyz »

golergka wrote: post #112
throwaway082024 wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love AI and think Zed is dropping the ball big time here. How can they focus their limited resources into developing shitty AI extensions when they should be focusing on absolute deal-breakers, like cross-platform support? Nobody cares that they can't use Claude on Zed. Everyone cares that they can't use Zed on Windows.

> Nobody cares that they can't use Claude on Zed. I do. I just cancelled Cody subscription because it incredibly slowed down my VSCode. If Zed is able to do advanced AI features that Cody did but remain snappy, I will gladly pay them $20 a month. > Everyone cares that they can't use Zed on Windows. There are more users on Windows and Android, but they on average pay less and more often make developer tools purchase d…

Hey golergka, sorry to hear about Cody slowing down your VS Code. Would you be able to share more info about this? I haven't seen Cody users complain about this in the past, so trying to understand what the potential issue might have been.

Feel free to email me at ado.kukic@sourcegraph.com if you'd prefer.

Re: Zed AI

#162

Post by neonsunset »

koito17 wrote: post #142
stephc_int13 wrote: post #17

Not releasing a cross-platform code editor on the dominant OS seems quite weird in my opinion. (I know they plan to do it, but as someone who has built cross-platform apps, this is not rocket science to have Win32 support from the start.)

Anecdotally, I have never seen Windows widely used for development, outside of .NET shops (but that shouldn't be a surprise). Moreover, there's plenty of quirks Windows has with respect to: - Unicode (UTF-16 whereas the world is UTF-8; even Java uses UTF-8 nowadays, so it's only Windows where UTF-8 is awkward to use) - filenames (lots of restrictions that don't exist on Mac or Linux) - text encoding (the data in the…

This comment is not correct.

Java uses mixed Latin1/UTF-16 strings. The Latin1 mode is used for compact storage of alphanumeric text as the name suggests: https://github.com/openjdk/jdk/blob/1ebf2cf639300728ffc02478...

Re: Zed AI

#163

Post by meiraleal »

modernerd wrote: post #159
lovethevoid wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sublime Text is likely closer to what you're looking for.

I retry it every now and then and miss the easy extensibility of Neovim. Can we build something that marries both worlds?

By we you mean anybody besides you? Complain-driven development.

Re: Zed AI

#164

Post by digging »

cedws wrote: post #121
cube2222 wrote: post #54

As I’ve said in yesterday’s thread[0], contrary to many others I find the AI integration in Zed to be extremely smooth and pleasant to use, so I’m happy they’re doubling down on this. However, personally, I prefer to have it configured to talk directly to Anthropic, to limit the number of intermediaries seeing my code, but in general I can see myself using this in the future. More importantly, I’m happy that they mig…

>However, personally, I prefer to have it configured to talk directly to Anthropic, to limit the number of intermediaries seeing my code, but in general I can see myself using this in the future. Same. I can kind of feel OK about my code going to Anthropic, but I can't have it going through another third party as well. This is unfortunately IT/security's worst nightmare. Thousands of excitable developers are going to…

I really wanted to try this out with a difficult bug, as I've had Zed installed for a while and haven't actually used it. But I have no idea if I'd get in trouble for that... even though our whole team uses VSCode which I'm sure has scanned all our codebases anyway.

Re: Zed AI

#165

Post by pjmlp »

phero_cnstrcts wrote: post #146
andrewmcwatters wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would like us as an industry to promote paying for things we use. Crazy idea, I know. Open source is great and fun and an incredible force multiplier for the world, but when you want to do this stuff for a living, you have to charge money for it somehow, and if you're a software business, and not just software adjacent, it means charging for software.

As long as it is not via subscriptions…

Everyone goes to subscriptions, because trying to get new customers every month at a rate that pays everyone's salaries, at a typical engineering level, plus everyone else on the company, and office rental, doesn't scale, specially in developer tools where many prefer to suffer with lesser tooling than paying.

Re: Zed AI

#166

Post by bigstrat2003 »

simonw wrote: post #81
throwaway082024 wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love AI and think Zed is dropping the ball big time here. How can they focus their limited resources into developing shitty AI extensions when they should be focusing on absolute deal-breakers, like cross-platform support? Nobody cares that they can't use Claude on Zed. Everyone cares that they can't use Zed on Windows.

"Everyone cares that they can't use Zed on Windows." By "Everyone" I assume you mean "Everyone who uses Windows". I can't imagine us Mac/Linux people care very much.

Sure. But that's most users.

Re: Zed AI

#167

Post by bigstrat2003 »

koito17 wrote: post #142
stephc_int13 wrote: post #17

Not releasing a cross-platform code editor on the dominant OS seems quite weird in my opinion. (I know they plan to do it, but as someone who has built cross-platform apps, this is not rocket science to have Win32 support from the start.)

Anecdotally, I have never seen Windows widely used for development, outside of .NET shops (but that shouldn't be a surprise). Moreover, there's plenty of quirks Windows has with respect to: - Unicode (UTF-16 whereas the world is UTF-8; even Java uses UTF-8 nowadays, so it's only Windows where UTF-8 is awkward to use) - filenames (lots of restrictions that don't exist on Mac or Linux) - text encoding (the data in the…

Everywhere I've worked, most users (including devs) are on Windows. Windows is the major OS in enterprise environments, it's a huge mistake to not support it imo.

Re: Zed AI

#168

Post by throwaway74354 »

modernerd wrote: post #159
lovethevoid wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sublime Text is likely closer to what you're looking for.

I retry it every now and then and miss the easy extensibility of Neovim. Can we build something that marries both worlds?

RIP Onivim 2, it was so close to this niche.

Re: Zed AI

#169

Post by Nathanba »

pjmlp wrote: post #165
phero_cnstrcts wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As long as it is not via subscriptions…

Everyone goes to subscriptions, because trying to get new customers every month at a rate that pays everyone's salaries, at a typical engineering level, plus everyone else on the company, and office rental, doesn't scale, specially in developer tools where many prefer to suffer with lesser tooling than paying.

Subscriptions are only okay for me if it's done like Jetbrains does it, where you can keep the old versions permanently. Partly because it implies what has to be true for monthly payments to make sense: that the software keeps getting better and keeps getting support for various tech advances that happen and tools and databases. If I'm paying monthly for something that doesn't cost them anything then that feels illogical on my side. This should become a thing with online services too, at least let me keep some kind of upgraded version of your service after I stop paying. Something please, anything to make me feel less like a chump for having paid and then ending up with nothing in the end.

Re: Zed AI

#170

Post by modernerd »

meiraleal wrote: post #163
modernerd wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I retry it every now and then and miss the easy extensibility of Neovim. Can we build something that marries both worlds?

By we you mean anybody besides you? Complain-driven development.

Happy to try building one to free you from complaint-driven motivation.
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