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Postmortem of my 9 year journey at Google

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Re: Postmortem of my 9 year journey at Google

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Post by andsoitis »

usr1106 wrote: post #156
ben_w wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Similar, but less emotively. I'm disappointed in them but I'm not a hater. > 90% of Youtube is useless crap That is the way of all things: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturgeon's_law But the best of YouTube, people are clearly willing to pay for that.

I would be willing to pay based on usage. But my usage is so low that the current price feels horrendous per hour.

> But my usage is so low that the current price feels horrendous per hour.

I don’t know how you can decry video streaming and advertising as destroying the planet and thus hating one of the companies that provide these services YET you use it.

Re: Postmortem of my 9 year journey at Google

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Post by meiraleal »

One of the funniest things in HN that I love to "lose" some karma points is to join discussions about/with frustrated ex- Googlers. Google is shit, completely enshitiffied and the engineers there are responsible for that but still when you get to this kind of thread the only thing you see is them praising each other, patting back. Google is gone, my friends. Men in suits destroyed it. Gone is the time that people working there were considered smart, now only the greedy remained.

Re: Postmortem of my 9 year journey at Google

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Post by tuwtuwtuwtuw »

andsoitis wrote: post #161
usr1106 wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would be willing to pay based on usage. But my usage is so low that the current price feels horrendous per hour.

> But my usage is so low that the current price feels horrendous per hour. I don’t know how you can decry video streaming and advertising as destroying the planet and thus hating one of the companies that provide these services YET you use it.

Google is a monopoly. Of course you can complain over such a company even if you use their products.

Re: Postmortem of my 9 year journey at Google

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Post by joenot443 »

deisteve wrote: post #43
atleastoptimal wrote: post #32

All these things make me envious of people who get to work at Google or any other FAANG company, where they are both paid well and validated for their intelligence.

but the work that Googlers do most of HN can do its the proximity, pedigree, profile that you have to fit to get in to Google I'm happy for those that made it. Not everybody gets to work for Google. But the work they do are no less challenging or more important than what the rest of us do. If anything FAANG has contributed greatly to the American Firewall of Algorithms and have destroyed an entire generation's abilit…

> "if they are paying you a large salary, what they take from you is far greater"

Hmm, this seems like a nice thing to tell oneself to avoid feeling underpaid :)

Re: Postmortem of my 9 year journey at Google

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Post by rglullis »

tuwtuwtuwtuw wrote: post #163
andsoitis wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But my usage is so low that the current price feels horrendous per hour. I don’t know how you can decry video streaming and advertising as destroying the planet and thus hating one of the companies that provide these services YET you use it.

Google is a monopoly. Of course you can complain over such a company even if you use their products.

They do not have a monopoly on video streaming, and if they did piracy would be the morally acceptable option.

Re: Postmortem of my 9 year journey at Google

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Post by sva_ »

usr1106 wrote: post #148

Some 20 - 10 years ago I was seriously interested in joining Google for many of the reasons he lists. In the end I never applied because at the time they had no development in any country I would have been interested to relocate to. However, during recent years I have turned into a Google hater. He does not mention any of those aspects. Google is an evil business IMHO. They are an advertising company. The challenges…

At least newer Android phones have something like 7 years of updates, so there is some progress.

The claim that more memory/computing power has no benefits at all seems nonsensical.

Re: Postmortem of my 9 year journey at Google

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Post by 9dev »

ben_w wrote: post #153
usr1106 wrote: post #148

Some 20 - 10 years ago I was seriously interested in joining Google for many of the reasons he lists. In the end I never applied because at the time they had no development in any country I would have been interested to relocate to. However, during recent years I have turned into a Google hater. He does not mention any of those aspects. Google is an evil business IMHO. They are an advertising company. The challenges…

Similar, but less emotively. I'm disappointed in them but I'm not a hater. > 90% of Youtube is useless crap That is the way of all things: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturgeon's_law But the best of YouTube, people are clearly willing to pay for that.

The point, though, is the 90% are having a disastrous impact on the environment, despite being fundamentally irrelevant and thus wasteful.

Re: Postmortem of my 9 year journey at Google

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Post by aikinai »

tuwtuwtuwtuw wrote: post #163
andsoitis wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But my usage is so low that the current price feels horrendous per hour. I don’t know how you can decry video streaming and advertising as destroying the planet and thus hating one of the companies that provide these services YET you use it.

Google is a monopoly. Of course you can complain over such a company even if you use their products.

Google is not even close to that kind of monopoly. Every one of their products has viable alternative, and plenty of anti-Google people get by without using them.

Re: Postmortem of my 9 year journey at Google

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Post by thaumasiotes »

pfsalter wrote: post #160
thaumasiotes wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> around the same time Google lost their innocence and dropped the "Don't be evil" clause When did that happen? It's still there.

Back in 2018 [1], at a similar time that there was a lot of moving about and restructuring. I think this is about the time that Google search started going downhill as well [1] https://gizmodo.com/google-removes-nearly-all-mentions-of-do...

Again, the phrase was not dropped. You might notice that your link is titled "Google removes nearly all mentions of don't be evil from its code of conduct". (By which they mean 3 mentions.)

But as that article notes, they didn't drop the phrase. It's there now. It's always been there. There was never a time when they dropped it.

Re: Postmortem of my 9 year journey at Google

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Post by denkmoon »

aikinai wrote: post #168
tuwtuwtuwtuw wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google is a monopoly. Of course you can complain over such a company even if you use their products.

Google is not even close to that kind of monopoly. Every one of their products has viable alternative, and plenty of anti-Google people get by without using them.

That certainly isn't true of youtube. It, exclusively, holds a lot of videos. It's not like I can just watch random youtuber on vimeo or some kind of gnutube.
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