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Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Re: Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Post by michaelt »

jsheard wrote: post #116
TheAdamist wrote: post #93

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Thats generally the point with sudden disruptive moves - high attrition. Reduce the headcount without having to be in the news for layoffs.

They've already cut about 80% of their workforce since Elon took over, I'm not sure how much more attrition they can take. Sure the site still mostly works in the technical sense, but the way it works now has led to a significant decline in revenue and active users.

To me "revenue and MAUs have declined significantly" sounds like a reason they would want to reduce employee numbers, rather than a reason they wouldn't.

At least in a conventional business that uses revenue to pay wages.

Re: Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Post by jorts »

toast0 wrote: post #156
TheAdamist wrote: post #93

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Thats generally the point with sudden disruptive moves - high attrition. Reduce the headcount without having to be in the news for layoffs.

I don't know what the established criteria are for 'reasonable commuting distance' in the SF Bay area, but seems like a big forced transfer like this might need a WARN act notice, which is going to get the company in the news for layoffs. And probably in the news for not providing the notice in a timely fashion, too. This would be a bad look for a company that cared about how it looks.

SF to San Jose would be a horrible commute via car, which not everyone has.

Re: Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Post by davedx »

vundercind wrote: post #103
andrewinardeer wrote: post #74

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Why would X have gotten kicked out for unpaid rent? The building manager stopped any and all proceedings against X for the two months of alleged unpaid rent.

Just because you caught up with back payments doesn’t mean the landlord wants you around anymore. Not all delinquencies may have reached the level of lawsuit, either, while still being a problem.

Because commercial real estate is just booming right now, right? People are fighting for that office space!

Re: Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Post by ulfw »

ionwake wrote: post #80

As a UK chap, can someone give me their opinion on if San Jose is a more pleasant place to live than San Fran these days?

Both are quite boring mid-size cities that are heavily overpriced for what they offer. SF is more exciting/prettier yet less safe than SJ.

Re: Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Post by smcin »

pjerem wrote: post #75
anonzzzies wrote: post #52

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It is the same thing. Not political, but as far as I know the previous guy didn't whine as much about free speech while not being free speech as the current guy.

Also free speech in law just means you can’t be prosecuted to say stupid things. It doesn’t mean that anyone owes you the canal to say your stupid things. The previous twitter had (somehow) moderation. You would think what you want about it but you were free to use your free speech right elsewhere. The difference is that Musk says that it gives you this canal but he lies because he is still moderating the network, ex…

I think when you say 'canal' you mean 'channel' (translating from French?), or more commonly 'platform'.

Re: Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Post by Zambyte »

uxp100 wrote: post #124
infecto wrote: post #104

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The Bay area is fairly constrained in terms of transportation. Commuting in a car is not possible (unless you enjoy deadlock traffic + paying for parking). Public transportation exists but only works on specific segments. I would guess a large portion of the individuals in the SF office would live within SF/East bay and have a fairly reasonable commute going to the SF office. I am not sure how far Bart goes south now…

Commuting in a car is not possible because most people do it, I suppose.

Nobody goes there anymore, it's too crowded.

Re: Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Post by gtirloni »

standardUser wrote: post #132

Twitter was given a famously sweet deal by the city to occupy that troubled stretch of Market St. In the time I lived nearby (until the pandemic) the area never really improved. San Francisco has an odd tolerance for the tent communities, no just that it largely allows them, but that it allows them in and around the busiest and most publicly-utilized transit hubs and the city center.

> San Francisco has an odd tolerance for the tent communities

When I visited SF for the first time in 2019, it felt really weird that such a rich place would have so many people living in tents in public spaces. Being naive, I saw dozens of tents in Sue Bierman Park and thought they were having an event or something. Then it dawned on me what I was seeing and it never made sense because certainly it doesn't take a lot of money to give these people something so they don't have to live in tents.

Where I live (South America), the city had this situation about 20 years ago and what they did was buy a bunch of cheap land in the outskirts, build small houses and relocate these people. To avoid it being called charity, they "lent" the money that these people could pay in >50 years without interest. And this is a place with no tradition of philantrophy or billionaries. So I'd imagine a single billionarie could fix SF's situation in a blink of an eye, no?

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Post by gadders »

acdha wrote: post #71
ThunderSizzle wrote: post #46

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The difference is that Twitter didn’t ban conservatives for their political views but for violating their terms of service. In Trump’s case that was continued calls for violence and election interference, more than a hypothetical concern after his followers made an unprecedented violent attack on the U.S. electoral process. As you can easily verify, most conservatives were never banned: the people who were banned mad…

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Re: Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Post by MrBuddyCasino »

iLoveOncall wrote: post #109
MrBuddyCasino wrote: post #91

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San Jose and Palo Alto are both 30 minutes from San Francisco and in California...

You‘re right of course, I confused it with the move to Texas.
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