Now you have to pay $350 extra for AppleCare unless you're the luckiest person in the world.
The fourth year of AppleCare now costs 2 grand since every MBP will now self destruct in the fourth year :)
New Apple Macbook Pro RAM is soldered to the motherboard | Ian Chilton
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Re: New Apple Macbook Pro RAM is soldered to the motherboard | Ian Chilton
#162Sorry but you have got to be a fucking idiot to buy one to be honest if that is the case. Apple are making an attempt to turn generic computers into disposable appliances with moves like these. I would never accept a compromise like that with a computer that I owned. My rationale is as follows: If I pay £1800 for one of those machines, I expect to be able to repair common problems easily. That's a lot of money sittin…
"Sorry but stuff like this is just pandering to consumerism if it is disposable by design."
You are kind of right.
We use our 7 year old G4 Powerbook with the 4th battery. Its a pity that there is no real operating system available for a Thinkpad.
Re: New Apple Macbook Pro RAM is soldered to the motherboard | Ian Chilton
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You just need to understand that you have become an edge case. The 1%. People just aren't using Firewire, Optical Drives and Ethernet like they use to. And compromising the entire computer just to satisfy a minority isn't good business. And absolutely isn't Apple's style. Most things are more expensive when you aren't buying the mainstream option. In your case having to buy the Superdrive, Firewire and GigE adapters.
You just need to understand that you have become an edge case. It's called the Macbook Pro . Firewire is huge in cameras still. Optical drives are still big in AV work. Ethernet is still important in corporate networks. By default, professionals are not mainstream. This is a 100% consumer laptop. Calling it "Pro" is just disingenuous when there's not a single professional aspect about it.
Thunderbolt is the high-speed channel on this thing.
Plug it into a matching Cinema Display and you've got Firewire, GigE, etc., all via Thunderbolt.
Apple, once again, is betting on a new standard, which seems to be working.
(The HDMI port is a nice touch, since most modern projectors and large-screen devices support it.)
Re: New Apple Macbook Pro RAM is soldered to the motherboard | Ian Chilton
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Making components replaceable increases volume, weight, and cost. If you want replaceable components, go buy a computer for which that is a feature - and know that you will get a machine which is larger, heavier, and more expensive (all other factors being equal). Swapable components require additional casing, connectors, testing, sales channels, etc. You're not going to get a 3/4" 5-lb 7-hour 256GB-SSD 8GB-RAM MBA R…
Your assumptions are completely wrong, and it only shows that Apple target customers are not really doing any kind of serious computing. Sometimes your processes are not CPU bound at all, sometimes they are I/O bound. Sometimes in RAM caches can increase performance quite a bit etc. This means swapping HDD and putting faster SSD is enough to speed certain things up. Also, updating RAM only is enough to speed things u…
You're right, the machine in front of me does not do any "serious computing." It's just a device which lets me communicate with the people I work with, look up things on the internet, and enable me to work on a ~500 core cluster.
The computer in front of me is basically just an appliance now. That has no bearing on the actual work I do.
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No - that's how hard it is for YOU to initiate the recycling of the machine. The actual recycling bit is considerably harder.
Just so that I know — how exactly do you (I mean yourself) recycle Li-Ion battery cells? I'm curious, because I never tried to do that at home. I always returned the whole appliance for recycling.
If by "recycle" you will accept the alternative "reuse", I know many people who reuse batteries. I've done it once, when a hardware failure caused my laptop to become a doorstop. The battery was put into an RC project I was working on and the rest of the laptop was sent to true recyclers.
Re: New Apple Macbook Pro RAM is soldered to the motherboard | Ian Chilton
#166The real news is that they could shave as much of the macbook off as they actually did. Did you see the video? The screen display is now 'attached directly' to the unibody with no 'glass layer'. What does that even mean? Whatever it means, it's obviously not user-serviceable. I was amazed at how much they got off the macbook in size and weight - EDIT: everywhere, off the whole machine - and they're idiots for not put…
What did you want? The smaller size is a focus of the commercial and is one of the huge text headlines on the promo page. http://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/ You can only fit so much in a product name.
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I've had 5 Apple laptops since 2001 and have never had to replace anything. Average time of ownership has only been 2 years, though. Because of the resale value, I've found it's pretty effective to sell the 2-year old and put it towards a new one.
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FWIW, Apple's machines are some of the most recyclable in the industry. Aluminum and glass are far more recyclable than plastic.
Re: New Apple Macbook Pro RAM is soldered to the motherboard | Ian Chilton
#168Sorry but you have got to be a fucking idiot to buy one to be honest if that is the case. Apple are making an attempt to turn generic computers into disposable appliances with moves like these. I would never accept a compromise like that with a computer that I owned. My rationale is as follows: If I pay £1800 for one of those machines, I expect to be able to repair common problems easily. That's a lot of money sittin…
Yep, the design is plain stupid. Then again, the average consumer and corporate user never replace components anyway, so Apple will probably not lose sales over this.
I hope other manufacturers won't follow suit, though...
Re: New Apple Macbook Pro RAM is soldered to the motherboard | Ian Chilton
#169Apple would make you buy a new machine just to install a new application, if they could. I have confidence they will figure it out, in due time. There is, after all, tremendous pressure to maintain their revenue.
I would say iOS already works like this. They push out OS updates to devices not capable of running them properly, and provide no easy path to roll back. Many non-technical users will just think their "old" phone has "gotten slow", as if that's the inevitable course that products take as they age. So they buy a new device. The App Store only makes this worse, since at any given time you can only download the most rec…
> They push out OS updates to devices not capable of running them properly, and provide no easy path to roll back.
Barring a temporary bug in iOS3, every time an iOS update has come through my phone has felt faster afterwards.
Re: New Apple Macbook Pro RAM is soldered to the motherboard | Ian Chilton
#170The real news is that they could shave as much of the macbook off as they actually did. Did you see the video? The screen display is now 'attached directly' to the unibody with no 'glass layer'. What does that even mean? Whatever it means, it's obviously not user-serviceable. I was amazed at how much they got off the macbook in size and weight - EDIT: everywhere, off the whole machine - and they're idiots for not put…
I disagree; I believe this marketing focus is more effective.
Consider their entire product line. The MacBook Air is thinner than this, and it's old news. The next-generation MacBook Pro is their first Mac with a Retina display.