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Re: Eza: A modern, maintained replacement for ls

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Post by b112 »

creshal wrote: post #101
b112 wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My counterpoint was merely that ~/. hid things, unless you did weird things. Like explicitly ask to see all hidden things. Having a file manager set to see all dotfiles by default, is like ripping all the doors off your closets.

You're completely missing the point. ~/.programname is an unorganized mess, where someone stuff their dirty laundry, their trash, their food and their passport into the same closet. It doesn't matter if the closet is open or not, nobody but the mentally ill hoarder who created the mess can navigate it. ~/.(local|share|cache) means people put their food in the fridge, their trash into the bin and their sensitive docum…

But that's disorganized!

I have a real filing cabinet. In it, I have folders.

I don't keep my backup car dongle in one folder, my car invoice in another, my warranty and info from dealer all in different folders. They're all in a folder with the car name on it.

The same for my fridge. The invoice, the manual, the warranty info, all in one folder.

It is much more disorganized to have a folder for manuals and put them all there. I have to find the one I want out of 50 such manuals. And if it is a warranty thing, then I need the invoice, and other papers.

Why would I want to keep associated things in different folders?!

You think it's a mess, but really it's not. It's organized for humans to find related things.

Before, I'd uninstall a program and delete its single dotdir. Done.

Now I have to hunt in a maze of madness to "get it all".

You cite some programs that didn't properly keep their data in a single dotdir, and use that as a reason why a single dotdir was bad?!

Re: Eza: A modern, maintained replacement for ls

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Post by tirpen »

hhh wrote: post #117
godshatter wrote: post #114

One pet peeve of mine is "human readable dates", especially for a directory listing. If I'm scanning for something I copied into a folder yesterday amongst other things, I don't want everything to show "1 day ago" if I'm looking for something I did around 11am. I want the dates and times. That goes for forums like HN. Show me the date/time and also "7 hours ago" or whatever if you have to. I've never understood takin…

You can hover over the time on HN and get a timestamp.

Not if you are on a phone or similar device, which lots of people are. Important info like that should never be only accessible by hovering a mouse pointer that may or may not exist.

Re: Eza: A modern, maintained replacement for ls

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Post by phlip9 »

Can definitely recommend eza (prev. exa). I've used it as an ls replacement for a long time with zero problems. If anyone's using nix home-manager, here's my config for inspiration:

    programs.eza = {
      enable = true;

      # In list view, include a column with each file's git status.
      git = true;
    };

    programs.bash.shellAliases = {
      ks = "eza";
      sl = "eza";
      l = "eza";
      ls = "eza";
      ll = "eza -l";
      la = "eza -a";
      lt = "eza --tree";
      lla = "eza -la";
    };

Re: Eza: A modern, maintained replacement for ls

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Post by Too »

creshal wrote: post #101
b112 wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My counterpoint was merely that ~/. hid things, unless you did weird things. Like explicitly ask to see all hidden things. Having a file manager set to see all dotfiles by default, is like ripping all the doors off your closets.

You're completely missing the point. ~/.programname is an unorganized mess, where someone stuff their dirty laundry, their trash, their food and their passport into the same closet. It doesn't matter if the closet is open or not, nobody but the mentally ill hoarder who created the mess can navigate it. ~/.(local|share|cache) means people put their food in the fridge, their trash into the bin and their sensitive docum…

~/.(local|share|whatever) means I have to search both the basement, the attic and the garage. For stuff i rarely need to touch so I forget every time where it was placed.

If it was only one place it would be great. If it was truly separated by config vs cache it would be great. The reality know though is that you have at least three locations where important config are stored, not counting those from package managers that have their own idea of this concept. Still, this mess is preferable to the even worse mess of hundred plumbing files spread on the living room floor.

Re: Eza: A modern, maintained replacement for ls

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Post by sandreas »

thiht wrote: post #158
sandreas wrote: post #149

There is also 'lsd' but I still prefer eza. For everyone interested there is a lot of modern command line tools I nowadays prefer over the old stuff: bat - cat with highlight difftastic - better diff gdu - ncdu for ssds (disk space analyser) zoxide - modern cd fd - find alternative rg - ripgrep (grep) fzf - fuzzy finder jless - json viewer with mouse folding dra - download and install release assets lazygit - git TUI…

4 additional tools I use regularly: - task, a Makefile alternative - hyperfine, a benchmark tool - vegeta, a load testing tool - sd, a better, more intuitive sed There’s also the JSON trinity: - jq, the well know JSON processor - jc, convert the output of many CLI tools to JSON - gron, make JSON greppable

Cool. Some new ones there. I usually use a script with dra to download my release assets to `$HOME/bin`

I also use `oha` (Load Testing), `btop` (better top), `rmlint` (find duplicates) and `cheat` (similar to tldr - short manpages).

There is a blog post / video that shows how to integrate fzf with git, bat etc... it's one of the best videos I've ever seen on terminal productivity:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmqDYw9C30I

This guy is bonkers - take a look at his other videos, too

Re: Eza: A modern, maintained replacement for ls

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Post by sandreas »

sandywaffles wrote: post #156
sandreas wrote: post #149

There is also 'lsd' but I still prefer eza. For everyone interested there is a lot of modern command line tools I nowadays prefer over the old stuff: bat - cat with highlight difftastic - better diff gdu - ncdu for ssds (disk space analyser) zoxide - modern cd fd - find alternative rg - ripgrep (grep) fzf - fuzzy finder jless - json viewer with mouse folding dra - download and install release assets lazygit - git TUI…

I use du-dust over gdu, but otherwise my list is almost identical to yours.

Thanks. I will definitely try that out.

Re: Eza: A modern, maintained replacement for ls

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Post by wocram »

godshatter wrote: post #114

One pet peeve of mine is "human readable dates", especially for a directory listing. If I'm scanning for something I copied into a folder yesterday amongst other things, I don't want everything to show "1 day ago" if I'm looking for something I did around 11am. I want the dates and times. That goes for forums like HN. Show me the date/time and also "7 hours ago" or whatever if you have to. I've never understood takin…

This is a setting, you can change it to any other date format you want.

Re: Eza: A modern, maintained replacement for ls

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Post by SAI_Peregrinus »

wocram wrote: post #168
godshatter wrote: post #114

One pet peeve of mine is "human readable dates", especially for a directory listing. If I'm scanning for something I copied into a folder yesterday amongst other things, I don't want everything to show "1 day ago" if I'm looking for something I did around 11am. I want the dates and times. That goes for forums like HN. Show me the date/time and also "7 hours ago" or whatever if you have to. I've never understood takin…

This is a setting, you can change it to any other date format you want.

Yep, `--time-style`.
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