The EU is already falling behind in the AI revolution, and now this. I love the EU, but is there any EU tech regulation that actually had the intended effect?
Apple won't roll out AI tech in EU market over regulatory concerns
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#162Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think it's not that they have to make it able to screen share with Windows, but allow the same APIs they use to screen share to Mac open to anyone that want's to make a iPhone to Windows/Linux/Android screen sharing app.
That is just a baseless speculation.
Until something more definitive comes out, that's all any of us can do
Re: Apple won't roll out AI tech in EU market over regulatory concerns
#163I get the debate over AI, since that is a central repository of everything, but what is the problem of treating screen sharing with the same permission as -for example- the cameras?
an app could give permission to be shared, and it definitely should receive user permission to get the stream
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#164Earlier quoted context omitted.
EU will regulate themselves straight out of economic productivity.
Yeah and we regulate ourself straight into liveable working conditions, public healthcare, paid vacations, parental leaves and all other kinds of really really nasty communist nightmares
>liveable work conditions
How does low pay affect the “liveability” of work conditions? A waitress in the US makes as much or more than a software engineer in most of the EU. While the EU worker may receive more vacation time, and while he certainly has better personal financial skills (poverty will do that to you), he has no path towards a better future. A blue collar American worker, in the (increasingly unlikely) event that he chooses to manage his money well, can end up wealthy. A European who isn’t born wealthy will never become wealthy.
>public healthcare
Which everyone avoids, if they can afford it. The private system is really good though.
>parental leave
Because of the cost and risk of employing someone in the EU, when an employee takes maternity leave it’s the other employees who end up having to do the missing employee’s work. This is especially true with small businesses.
>communist nightmare
Over-socialized neo-feudal peasants who embrace their own impoverishment because they’ve been convinced that they’re superior to everyone else is pretty dystopian.
Re: Apple won't roll out AI tech in EU market over regulatory concerns
#165Over the years, overregulation will continue to lock the EU out of bleeding-edge technologies. Every feature, every website, every innovation that doesn’t launch in the EU further plunges the bloc into technological irrelevance.
Would you mind sharing which advanced technologies am I missing out on living in the EU compared to the US? I haven't noticed any personally.
Re: Apple won't roll out AI tech in EU market over regulatory concerns
#166Over the years, overregulation will continue to lock the EU out of bleeding-edge technologies. Every feature, every website, every innovation that doesn’t launch in the EU further plunges the bloc into technological irrelevance.
> Over the years, overregulation will continue to lock the EU out of bleeding-edge technologies Agreed, and; hooray! Rather than plunging us "into technological irrelevance", it saves us from nonsense nobody asked for, mostly existing to sell more hardware that nobody needs.
Europeans will continue to buy the hardware, except rather than being able to afford the Apple devices they’ll buy some very low quality knockoffs from Shein.
Re: Apple won't roll out AI tech in EU market over regulatory concerns
#167The EU is already falling behind in the AI revolution, and now this. I love the EU, but is there any EU tech regulation that actually had the intended effect?
What if they don't want to be in the race?
Will their civilization fall down like the Roman empire?
People talk about AI as if it were literally water
Re: Apple won't roll out AI tech in EU market over regulatory concerns
#168It's always entertaining to watch Americans getting confused why the whole world doesn't want what they create. It's honestly pointless trying to explain another country's point of view as it's like talking to a brick wall
Re: Apple won't roll out AI tech in EU market over regulatory concerns
#169Earlier quoted context omitted.
> it's Apple saying to EU regulators we can't provide these features securely and privately They can't, or they won't ? Just because they say they can't do something doesn't mean it's true, especially when that something can negatively affect their profits and market share, so then they weaponize it as "think of your security!". Considering Apple's insane wealth and technical expertise, it's definitely possible, they…
The EU accounted for more than $24 billion in revenue last quarter, the most revenue outside of North America. Obviously this isn't something Apple takes lightly. Take a look at Apple's Private Cloud Compute white paper [1] and explain how Apple's supposed to make it DMA-compliant without sacrificing its security and privacy guarantees. Short answer: they can't without essentially starting over. EU residents will get…
>Take a look at Apple's Private Cloud Compute white paper [1] and explain how Apple's supposed to make it DMA-compliant without sacrificing its security and privacy guarantees.
Why should I figure it out for them? That's why they have so many highly skilled well paid engineers on their payroll, to solve stuff like this.
It's not my job to solve their cloud architecture design issues. Why don't they use some of that 24 Billion in EU revenue to engineer it to be EU privacy compliant?
And excuse me for not trusting their own biased interpretation of the reasoning why their clod architecture is incompatible with EU regulations. I have as much trust in that explanation as in a school kid explaining how he can't do his homework because his dog is eating it.
Until I get an unbiased opinion form a independent third party, I'm not buying Apples sob story tantrum.
Re: Apple won't roll out AI tech in EU market over regulatory concerns
#170> “We are concerned that the interoperability requirements of the DMA could force us to compromise the integrity of our products in ways that risk user privacy and data security,” Apple said in a statement. Apart from the “security concerns” of allowing use of non Apple services it will be interesting to hear the specifics of these. I thought most AI features were being released in American English before other local…
> Apart from the “security concerns” of allowing use of non Apple services I would think that if the EU requires Apple to allow third parties to use the new screen sharing APIs with the same privileges, that would be a security concern.
Wait, screen sharing API, so its basically the same thing, that Microsoft tries to do with Recall?