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> Pointless if it doesnt have cross platform. As mentioned in another news article on the topic: > It also syncs with PCs via the iCloud for Windows app. * https://www.theverge.com/2024/6/10/24175505/apple-password-a... and in the keynote itself: * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXeOiIDNNek&t=59m32s
Last I tried it, iCloud for Windows didn't integrate with Firefox, though.
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Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024
#162I've been an avid 1Password user for over 10 years, but since they gone full-throttle targeting the enterprise market, I'm getting more and more annoyed. It's increasingly buggy (right now, it thinks I haven't migrated from 1p7 which causes annoying interstitials that I can't close. Over a month and no fix yet.). They killed standalone vaults. Obvious feature requests (e.g archive an entire vault) sit there for years…
I'm only still on it because of team use, but if Apple's thing supports teams I'm gonna be so happy to get rid of it. I've been using it for nearly 20 years and it's been going down hill fast for the last 5, but 1Password 8 is an absolute clown car. It hijacks your passkey logins meaning that authenticating with Tailscale for me has gone from a single touch of the TouchID button on my Mac, to 1) click button that say…
Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024
#163I've been an avid 1Password user for over 10 years, but since they gone full-throttle targeting the enterprise market, I'm getting more and more annoyed. It's increasingly buggy (right now, it thinks I haven't migrated from 1p7 which causes annoying interstitials that I can't close. Over a month and no fix yet.). They killed standalone vaults. Obvious feature requests (e.g archive an entire vault) sit there for years…
I have been fighting switching to the SaaS version. Paying a monthly fee for access to my passwords is highway robbery. I do not want/need any of these other "services" they forced upon me. I have trying Apples keychain, but that migration is slow and a total pain in the ass. And it's not even a good replacement. I'm sure 1Password doesn't care one iota about loosing individual users with attitudes like this. Until t…
It would be. Fortunately, 1Password doesn’t do that [1].
You’re paying for an important piece of software to be maintained.
> I'm sure 1Password doesn't care one iota about loosing individual users with attitudes like this
Probably not. Emphasis on attitude.
Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024
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That's a great reason to not use Apple's, but Mozilla's doesn't lock you in at all.
The way Google's password manager covers websites anywhere I'm logged into Chrome plus native Android apps anywhere I'm logged into Google Play is super convenient though (albeit total lock-in, I won't argue that). Some apps are even developed well enough that a password originally stored via Chrome will be suggested for the app, I guess by cross-referencing the origins in some mutual way. And payment card details wi…
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#165I wasn’t expecting this much hate towards 1Password in the comments. I was using Google Passwords, then migrated to Apple, finally to 1P7 and now 1P8. It’s one of the best software I’ve ever used and I don’t know what I’d do without it. Same goes for Fastmail as well.
you really enjoy paying each month for access to your passwords? really?
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#166Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have been fighting switching to the SaaS version. Paying a monthly fee for access to my passwords is highway robbery. I do not want/need any of these other "services" they forced upon me. I have trying Apples keychain, but that migration is slow and a total pain in the ass. And it's not even a good replacement. I'm sure 1Password doesn't care one iota about loosing individual users with attitudes like this. Until t…
Interesting. Earlier this year I migrated passwords out of 1Password and a few from LastPass and Apple Keychain supported both easily. Just not more complex types of credentials. Every password and website was imported correctly as expected. If not I have yet to notice.
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No Linux or Android, which makes it useless for anybody having any devices running those. And since nobody wants to use two password managers, it remains a better solution to use a truly multi-platform one.
Linux isn't even relevant in this context with it's <1% DWM install base. Android, yes you have a point, though a Mac and Android is a strange combination.
Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024
#168Safari? Not on Windows.
Apple Music? This actually has a Windows client. I'm not sure how good it is. But Spotify supports Windows and even Linux.
Apple Password Manager? Will this be tied to iCloud? Will I be able to use it on Android? If I no longer have an iPhone will it be a pain to maintain and use?
A dog cannot serve two masters. A company like Apple doesn't see any of these things as a product. They're a means to an end: to push the iPhone platform (and hardware sales). That priority will always trump the interests of a product like this.
It's also why I refuse to buy more into Google products: it's too much of a risk to lose access to everything if Google wakes up one day and decides to suspend your account with no recourse other than making enough of a stink on social media such that an employee will actually look into it.
People don't want everything tied to one identity, one service, one login.
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The offline device with a plugin usb keyboard that "types" in your username and password is exactly what i've wanted forever. There are some devices people have made and posted online. I made a POC with an old android phone once but never got past that stage. I investigated the bluetooth encryption and it didn't really seem up to the task. You could create a dongle that lived on wifi though that would do the same.
I think it depends on the password, Bluetooth encryption would probably be fine for, like, my forums passwords. If anyone within, like, 50 feet of me right now wants to break into my Hackernews account… IDK, my dog does seem like a real jerk actually, so if I make any dumb posts let’s assume that she’s stolen my passwords. A dedicated device would be nice and, actually, keeping your passwords on something that never…
the really secure way I was thinking is a small touch device that could be small enough to slide into your wallet or even as a device that would live in a phone case exposed on the back of your phone. then there would be a small yubi key like dongle that you'd plug in to whatever your target device is and it would communicate over wifi. that would be like the ultra paranoid version. then you could have the iphone/android app that communicates with the dongle, the one that uses BT encryption, the one that uses a USB cable from the phone to emulate a keyboard.. options are endless.
there's some features you could have like computer vision to recognize the login prompt. it's easy to get into an imaginative loop with the ideas.
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you really enjoy paying each month for access to your passwords? really?
One of the reasons for bad software products & corporations taking advantage of users is this free loader mindset. What exactly is wrong with paying $10 per year for a well done product?
I paid for my full version of 1Pass way back when, and upgraded all the way through to v7. It was a one time fee and used until they broke it.
I never said refused to pay for it, but a monthly fee in perpetuity is just ridiculous to me.