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Re: Högertrafikomläggningen

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Post by Fuzzwah »

cozzyd wrote: post #152
matsemann wrote: post #150

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Yes, it's a thing that makes it hard for city planners and transport engineers when they test out new things. Any change often improves status quo in the start, so need to run it for long enough to actually gather valid data.

Sounds like we should have chaotic traffic patterns to improve safety.

When I first visited Kuala Lumpur in Indonesia I was dumbfounded how there wasn't endless car accidents. The taxi from the airport was one of the scariest things in my life. Roads marked with 3 lanes had cars 5 abreast with scooters and motorbikes still finding just enough space to lane split.

It really seemed like chaos to me. Didn't see a single bingle.

Re: Högertrafikomläggningen

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Post by type0 »

bjoli wrote: post #59
SahAssar wrote: post #30

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Usually people have one primary language which is usually the one predominantly used in the home they grew up in (or maybe the one used for their primary education). If you have multiple, that's fine, but your disregarding the reality for 90%+ of people if you don't think most people have a language that is their "primary". > It does not matter to me which language I use to communicate. Why should it? For most people…

I think something changed culturally as well. When my parents grew up any moderately educated person was expected to speak different several different languages. Very few in my generation speak three languages, even in my rather international field. Yet my older colleagues speak french, German and Spanish like it is nothing. And my international colleagues often speak 4+ languages. I am fine with English being a de f…

Speaking and using professionally is not the same. One of my friends speaks 6-7 languages, but can't use most of those for work, it's better to know 2 sufficiently well than imagining yourself being a polyglot.

Re: Högertrafikomläggningen

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Post by cozzyd »

Fuzzwah wrote: post #161
cozzyd wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like we should have chaotic traffic patterns to improve safety.

When I first visited Kuala Lumpur in Indonesia I was dumbfounded how there wasn't endless car accidents. The taxi from the airport was one of the scariest things in my life. Roads marked with 3 lanes had cars 5 abreast with scooters and motorbikes still finding just enough space to lane split. It really seemed like chaos to me. Didn't see a single bingle.

It sort of makes sense since most accidents are probably due to either inattentiveness or excessive speed.

Re: Högertrafikomläggningen

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Post by cozzyd »

agency wrote: post #105

The "see also" section links to a similar changeover in Okinawa which mentions that a country having more than one traffic direction is in violation of the Geneva convention (on road traffic) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Convention_on_Road_Tr...

Having more than one Geneva convention sounds like a violation of the Geneva convention

Re: Högertrafikomläggningen

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Post by BurningFrog »

stareatgoats wrote: post #86
BurningFrog wrote: post #83

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As I remember the 1970s joke wars, they were driven by tabloid newspapers on both sides, and all in good fun between friendly nations. I learned later that many of the jokes were translated American "Polish jokes".

> all in good fun Well, not everybody's idea of good fun I guess, friendly nations or not. But what do I know, I only visit Norway once in a blue moon nowadays. I have actually yet to hear a good "swede joke" at all actually; maybe they are just a myth?

I think it ended in the 80s at the latest.

No joke can run forever.

Re: Högertrafikomläggningen

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Post by mistrial9 »

type0 wrote: post #158
mistrial9 wrote: post #146

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also some other Scandinavians captured and sold Finns as slaves until about 1100.. some things are hard to forget once known widely

Yeah, but Lithuanians were the biggest slave traders on the Baltic sea up until until Christianity was widely adopted in the 15th century

aha - that puts a different light on the Prussian Northern Crusades right there.. interesting

Re: Högertrafikomläggningen

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Post by mistrial9 »

mistrial9 wrote: post #167
type0 wrote: post #158

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Yeah, but Lithuanians were the biggest slave traders on the Baltic sea up until until Christianity was widely adopted in the 15th century

aha - that puts a different light on the Prussian Northern Crusades right there.. interesting

addend - Lithuanian king Mendog was christianized in 1250

Re: Högertrafikomläggningen

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Post by m463 »

hnarn wrote: post #64
Arnt wrote: post #57

I cannot resist… I have to tell… when they did it, they had non-stop media coverage, as much as could possibly be done. An hour or two after traffic switched, TV broadcast from Svinesund, the biggest of the road crossings to Norway, and a major route for road haulage, and a reporter said something like "here we have the driver of a Norwegian 18-wheeler, . Well, , what do think of the big reform?" Norwegian, looking a…

This almost sounds like a sketch since Sweden has “Norway jokes” where the punchline is consistently how dumb Norwegians are — a structure that I’m sure is mirrored in Norway and similarly in other countries (england/scotland, france/belgium maybe?)

"Bork, bork, bork!"¹

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Chef

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