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Re: Google releases smart watch for kids

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Ugh, I threw up a little in my mouth just from the headline. This constant tracking of kids is unnecessary and dangerous. Generations of kids survived without their parents needing to know their location at all times. And yes, I totally admit, some kids (very few actually depending on the locale) didn't survive. But we've traded this false sense of "safety" for kids that are so risk averse it is seriously negatively…

> Generations of kids survived without their parents needing to know their location at all times. And cars used to be safe even without seatbelts! It turns out times change. Before you think I’m disagreeing with the entirety of your comment, my own kids are the most free-range in-the-dirt kids I know. But it’s location-dependent. I trust cities and their people far less than wild animals.

> And cars used to be safe even without seatbelts!

No, they weren't, which is why this is a poor analogy. We discovered that seatbelts could save an enormous number of lives with minimal impact on individuals, so we mandated them.

With child safety it's difficult to get comparable numbers (overall crime spiked in the 90s, so it's difficult to say whether kids were less safe because they had less tracking or just that overall crime was higher then), a big reason experts give for the reduction in crime affecting kids is they're simply inside a whole lot more.

They'd be even safer if we just put them in a plastic bubble I guess.

Re: Google releases smart watch for kids

#162

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For better or for worse the ship has definitely sailed on the laissez-faire "be home before sunset" parenting of past generations. Assuming that, its probably a net positive if a product like this can give a parent who would otherwise be full helicopter enough assurance to let their kid have more freedom and independence. Especially if its in lieu of a smartphone.

> For better or for worse the ship has definitely sailed on the laissez-faire "be home before sunset" parenting of past generations. It's only "sailed" because (some) parents demand to know where their kid is at all times. While I think it's difficult for any individual parent to, say, forbid social media for too long lest they ostracize their kid, saying "I won't track my kids" is a choice any parent can make. I jus…

If only all social problems could be solved so easily. Theft? It only happens because (some) people keep stealing. They should just stop.

In the absence of people just doing what I think is right instantly and without question, I pity the child whose parents solve this anxiety by trapping them in the house 16 hours a day.

Re: Google releases smart watch for kids

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Does anyone else feel uneasy about the idea of children having to curb their behavior because they know they're being constantly monitored by their parents? This product concerns me not only due to corporate advertising surveillance but also parental spying.

From skimming the page, it looks like it mainly just lets you know their location. Were there other more invasive features than that? Parents keeping tabs on where their kids are and who they're with is associated with positive outcomes like reduced drug use risks.

When I was young (several decades ago now, admittedly) parents couldn't track our locations. We largely turned out fine.

To me, someone who wants to track their kid's location 24/7 in real time sounds rather anxious - unless their kid has a history of drug abuse.

Re: Google releases smart watch for kids

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My partner is on one of the teams responsible for red tape and cost-cutting at Alphabet. After having frequent conversations about past failed projects, I'm surprised this project got the green light. Personally, I don't see this product taking off. As a parent, I think it looks quite lame, and I don't think anyone at Google knows how to break into product areas for kids. I've seen quite a few headlines concerned abo…

Even if it were brilliant, I have no faith in Google to support a product. I like Android, but so many Google products I early adopted got neglected or abandoned.

Maybe they think the average consumer doesn't care about what Google did with Wear, Chromecast, Daydream etc. But the early adopters are the ones who try these things first and I think they have gotten burned by Google too many times.

Re: Google releases smart watch for kids

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I got an Apple watch for my 11-year-old for precisely this reason - he can text, call, and play some games on it. Subscription to cellular is $10/month. And it let me set parental controls on it. No way was I getting him a phone, it's already way too distracting with the other devices he has access to at home.

Doesn’t it need to be paired with a phone thought?

It only needs to be paired to an iOS device for initial setup and configuration. A watch with cellular can operate independently of the iOS device after setup and configuration.

Re: Google releases smart watch for kids

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Fair enough! Something to watch for I suppose.

I think you've sort of missed the forest for the trees, here. If you've gotten to the point where the kid is hiding a phone from you, you're already in an adversarial relationship with a young adult who has lost trust in your ability to be a reasonable authority figure.

You seem to think that there aren't any kids that, under pretty much any circumstances, would want to have a private device. Speaking from experience (having been a kid myself) I can assure you that these kids exist.

Re: Google releases smart watch for kids

#167

My partner is on one of the teams responsible for red tape and cost-cutting at Alphabet. After having frequent conversations about past failed projects, I'm surprised this project got the green light. Personally, I don't see this product taking off. As a parent, I think it looks quite lame, and I don't think anyone at Google knows how to break into product areas for kids. I've seen quite a few headlines concerned abo…

Tell her to look at the travel system. At least when I was there a decade ago, they gameified it so that we needed to come in below the average cost for a flight, otherwise we needed VP approval. But if we came in under the average, you could bank the savings and use it to upgrade to first class, etc. This sounds great on paper: incentivizing employees to reduce travel costs and rewarding them for it! But in reality,…

Travels been in VP-approval land since late 2022. Very different place - 2016-2023 here. You can always just have concur do it, and it's pretty streamlined and integrated with flights

Re: Google releases smart watch for kids

#168

My partner is on one of the teams responsible for red tape and cost-cutting at Alphabet. After having frequent conversations about past failed projects, I'm surprised this project got the green light. Personally, I don't see this product taking off. As a parent, I think it looks quite lame, and I don't think anyone at Google knows how to break into product areas for kids. I've seen quite a few headlines concerned abo…

> I'm surprised this project got the green light. To me, it looks just like another example of Googs missing the boat and attempting to play catch up in an attempt to stay relevant by imitating what someone else does. Maybe that's a gross oversimplification, but that's the way it comes across to me. This thing clearly chasing Apple's device. Googs+ clearly chasing Facebook. Of course, there's their rash attempt at an…

Which apple device? I didn’t know they made watches for kids. Couldn’t find it either.

Re: Google releases smart watch for kids

#169
post #156

This is an interesting move by Google. The watch market for kids is huge and growing. Look at the major companies sales here. Also look at the amount of kid's smart watches available on Amazon and number of reviews (I know, i'm sure some of those are fake yada yada). The detractors here say "let the kids be free" and "no new tech for kids", but I wonder if those people have kids today? Parents WANT to give their kid'…

Doesn't even have to be about tracking - we got a limited watch for our kid when she was 9 or 10 so she could call and text us if anything came up, and used that as the basis for letting her do her own thing even more. Was fantastic. I'm pretty anti-device for kids (said 11yo is still grumpy I won't get her a phone), but watches with cellular are quite great.

Re: Google releases smart watch for kids

#170
post #160

My partner is on one of the teams responsible for red tape and cost-cutting at Alphabet. After having frequent conversations about past failed projects, I'm surprised this project got the green light. Personally, I don't see this product taking off. As a parent, I think it looks quite lame, and I don't think anyone at Google knows how to break into product areas for kids. I've seen quite a few headlines concerned abo…

this is the risk, no matter how useful products are. Google just cuts products at a whim. and sends products to the graveyard. even the one's that wouldn't cost 1 engineer - looking at you - Google Podcasts.

Podcasts would need more than one engineer, certainly more than 0 <= x < 1.
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