Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I think that one aspect is just that US is more ok with bullshitters and con artists: they consider it's part of the game. Startups aren't any more fundamentally scammy than any other business trying to get your money. Oh sure, some are scammy, but that's true for big established businesses as well.
I'm not saying they are more scammy, I'm saying that the reputation score is computed differently in US and in Europe, and having a scammy aspect is penalizing the startups more in Europe than in US. You can start from exactly the same facts: - X% are scammy - Y% are bringing something great - Z% are bringing yet another useless junk in shiny paper that pollute and had bad side effect - W% are making new discoveries…
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#162The expected returns from "want[ing] to go and work at companies like McKinsey, Goldman Sachs or Google" are both greater and more certain, so perhaps the individual young people are acting quite rationally in the UK? For context I spent years in my 20s doing start ups in London, and undoubtedly would have been better off financially now if I'd worked for some soul-sucking consultancy instead. I do agree with him tha…
The expected return of working for Big 4 in your 20’s is a coke habit
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#163Cynical theory, the UK is now full of the descendants of all those who said "Emigrating? That will never work", and that's set the culture. Grafters and optimists have had many opportunities to leave over recent centuries.
Those that emigrated were descendants of people who didn’t emigrate.
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#164At UT Austin a couple of times talking to a startup club dude, he was having trouble gathering interest on the Yellow Brick Road. I suggested he improve his advertising and marketing graphics, lead with thought-provoking questions and elevator convo about financial security and regret, and consider broadcast mechanisms on social media.
I think it's also younger generations aren't supported and encouraged appropriately to take risks, to view discomfort and fear as temporary obstacles to be sought, and are sold traditional dogma that "working as an employee equals financial security".
Unavoidable microeconomic law: You're never going to get anywhere near rich working for someone else without substantial equity.
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#165Cynical theory, the UK is now full of the descendants of all those who said "Emigrating? That will never work", and that's set the culture. Grafters and optimists have had many opportunities to leave over recent centuries.
Reductive take… Those that emigrated were descendants of people who didn’t emigrate.
[1] https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/immigration-system-...
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#166Why bother starting anything in the uk, the taxman will just take any proceeds. The moment I get an opportunity to move to the USA I’m heading over there to continue my business.
USA has taxes too.
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#168There's many factors that make Europe less competitive than the US: small fractured markets, low salaries, high cost of living relative to wages, Brexit costs, fear of being labeled a failure, working to live, focus on worker's rights, stability, and pensions, general risk aversion etc. A big issue is there's a lack of mega successes high margin software businesses that pump knowledge and money back into the startup…
This first one seems the largest hurdle w.r.t. startups. If you are a startup founder of say a ride hailing app - the total addressable market is much larger in the US for the same level of effort. If you want to scale beyond your home state (i.e. California) in the US, there are probably just a handful of different state/city taxes/regulations that need to be accounted for.
If you start in a country in Europe, you need to factor in:
- language translation of the entire app
- different country cultures/customs (i.e. tipping, wording of prompts and promotions) - even down to the naming of the app which might have a negative connotation in a different language
- prior to the Euro - differences with respect to currency, trademarks, patents, etc.
- entirely new country regulations and politicians that need to be "handled" - each in their own separate language which means a separate lawyer and lobbyist needs to be on staff for each country
- home court advantage - French probably prefer to support LeCab while Spaniards probably prefer to support Cabify
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#169Silicon Valley has practically symlinked the word "successful" to "started a company that got a high valuation". Maybe outside of the USA, people are likelier to center friends and family in their vision of success?
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#170I think the "one thing that's not like the others" in the article are the crazy-high rankings of Britain's top schools. Universities are a bit of a self-perpetuating reputation scheme, and the UK has been punching well above its weight in that department. Having worked with all Europeans, I can't say that I found the British to be skill or preparation outliers. Maybe just a little above the mean? Speaking English nat…
Someone like Peter Thiel would maybe argue that the difference in risk taking in the UK and the US is actually reflected in the relatively high number of high UK university rankings? I'm far from Thiel in my general perspectives but it's worth noting that in certain circles there's sort of an ambivalent — if not outright hostile — attitude toward universities in the US and that ambivalence is only increasing. I think a Thiel-like person might think it odd to draw a direct line between some reputational rankings of universities and startup culture, and might flip the whole thing on its head and argue it's evidence of problems with universities today.
I don't necessarily agree with this perspective but do think it's maybe worth pointing out some of the implicit assumptions being made in the essay.