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Re: Veo

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Post by ghshephard »

ben_w wrote: post #144
Difwif wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean? Everyone has access to the gpt-4o model right now through ChatGPT and the API. Sure we don't have voice-to-voice but we have a lot more than what Google has promised.

API yes, ChatGPT no (at least not for all users); I've got my own web interface for the API so I can play with the model (for all of $0.045 of API fees), but most people can't be bothered with that and will only get 4o when it rolls out as far as their specific ChatGPT account.

Was running just fine on my ChatGPT client on iOS - full 2-way voice comms by 3:00 PM yesterday. Application was already updated.

Re: Veo

#162

Post by mike_hearn »

ben_w wrote: post #144
Difwif wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean? Everyone has access to the gpt-4o model right now through ChatGPT and the API. Sure we don't have voice-to-voice but we have a lot more than what Google has promised.

API yes, ChatGPT no (at least not for all users); I've got my own web interface for the API so I can play with the model (for all of $0.045 of API fees), but most people can't be bothered with that and will only get 4o when it rolls out as far as their specific ChatGPT account.

I have a regular ChatGPT Pro account and I have GPT-4o.

The bigger issue is that 4o without the multi-modal, new speech capabilities or desktop app isn't that different to GPT-4. And those things aren't yet launched.

Re: Veo

#163

Post by lolinder »

criddell wrote: post #102
lolinder wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Laser-focused on the bottom line at the expense of all else" is not how I'd describe Google, now or at any point in the past. They have a lot of dysfunction, but if anything that dysfunction stems from too much experimentation and autonomy at the leaf nodes of the organization. That's how they get into these crazy places where they have to pick between 5 chat apps or whatever. If Google were as focused on ads as you…

I'd describe Google as focused on the bottom line after they put the ads guy in charge of search. I'm referring to this article that was posted here recently: https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-men-who-killed-google/

That was a decision that prioritized the bottom line over other things. But saying that Google is "focused" on the bottom line implies that there's a pattern of them putting the bottom line first, which is simply not true if you look at Google as a whole. Search specifically, maybe, but not Alphabet.

Re: Veo

#164

Post by dangoodmanUT »

popcar2 wrote: post #46

Not nearly as impressive as Sora. Sora was impressive because the clips were long and had lots of rapid movement since video models tend to fall apart when the movement isn't easy to predict. By comparison, the shots here are only a few seconds long and almost all look like slow motion or slow panning shots cherrypicked because they don't have that much movement. Compare that to Sora's videos of people walking in rea…

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Re: Veo

#165

Post by arcastroe »

popcar2 wrote: post #46

Not nearly as impressive as Sora. Sora was impressive because the clips were long and had lots of rapid movement since video models tend to fall apart when the movement isn't easy to predict. By comparison, the shots here are only a few seconds long and almost all look like slow motion or slow panning shots cherrypicked because they don't have that much movement. Compare that to Sora's videos of people walking in rea…

> The shots here [..] almost all look like slow motion or slow panning shots.

I think this is arguably better than the alternative. With slow-mo generated videos, you can always speed them up in editing. It's much harder to take a fast-paced video and slow it down without terrible loss in quality.

Re: Veo

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Post by totaldude87 »

its 2024 and AI is taking over and yet, to signup for this, it take way more clicks and Google form entry(1)

Sigh. I still have hopes for VEO though

Re: Veo

#167

Post by zb3 »

BlackJack wrote: post #152
airstrike wrote: post #39

> Veo > Sign up to try VisionFX Is it Veo or VisionFX? Is it a sign up, a trial, or a waitlist? How hard can it be to write a clear message? In the words of Don Miller, if you confuse, you lose.

Disclaimer: I work at Google on related stuff Veo is the name of a video model. VideoFX is the name of a new experimental tool at labs.google.com, which uses Veo and lets you make videos. Thanks for the feedback though, I see how it's confusing for users.

I see the endpoint returns "Not Implemented" when trying to make a video :Imagen 3 is awesome though, generates nice logos :D

Re: Veo

#168

Post by aragonite »

With so much recent focus by OpenAI/Google on AI's visual capabilities, does anyone know when we might see an OCR product as good as Whisper for voice transcription? (Or has that already happened?) I had to convert some PDFs and MP3s to text recently and was struck by the vast difference in output quality. Whisper's transcription was near-flawless, all the OCR softwares I tried struggled with formatting, missed words, and made many errors.

Re: Veo

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Post by totaldude87 »

popcar2 wrote: post #46

Not nearly as impressive as Sora. Sora was impressive because the clips were long and had lots of rapid movement since video models tend to fall apart when the movement isn't easy to predict. By comparison, the shots here are only a few seconds long and almost all look like slow motion or slow panning shots cherrypicked because they don't have that much movement. Compare that to Sora's videos of people walking in rea…

Could also be the doing of google. if Veo screws up , the weight falls on Alphabet stock. While open AI is not public and doesn't have to worry about anything . Like even if open AI faked some of their AI videos(not saying they did), it wouldn't affect them the way it would affect Veo--> Google-->Alphabet

being cautious often puts a dent in innovation

Re: Veo

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Post by TecoAndJix »

hbn wrote: post #97
Difwif wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean? Everyone has access to the gpt-4o model right now through ChatGPT and the API. Sure we don't have voice-to-voice but we have a lot more than what Google has promised.

How do I get access? I just checked my app and the Premium upgrade says it will unlocked GPT-3.5 and GPT-4, so I assume my version is still the old one. All my apps are updated in the App Store too.

I have a paid account and can do voice to voice on the iOS app as of last night.
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