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Caniemail.com – like caniuse but for email content

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Re: Caniemail.com – like caniuse but for email content

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rjzzleep wrote: post #159
ryanbigg wrote: post #66

What an excellent resource! (And yes Outlook is a pain and supports so very little!) We've tried building email templates for notifications for our apps where I work, and it has typically been a pain. We have since swapped to using mjml ( https://mjml.io/ ) to build the templates, and it's working wonders. The output seems the be the most compatible with all different devices that we've tested on. The other tool we e…

> What an excellent resource! (And yes Outlook is a pain and supports so very little!) So outlook today is the internet explorer of mail?

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Re: Caniemail.com – like caniuse but for email content

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Post by GoblinSlayer »

easton wrote: post #160
rjzzleep wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What an excellent resource! (And yes Outlook is a pain and supports so very little!) So outlook today is the internet explorer of mail?

It literally is, Outlook for Windows uses the IE9 engine to render HTML email, IIRC. And even then not everything is supported.

You aren't trying to send an angular SPA in an email, are you?

Re: Caniemail.com – like caniuse but for email content

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Post by loa_in_ »

kome wrote: post #156
morgunkorn wrote: post #108

Hilarious anecdote about this website: the owner once said there are tons of entries in the usage log of people misunderstanding the purpose of the website and inputting celebrities names to try to email them. :D

that's a startup idea. and the answer to the "can i email...?" will be always a static page the says "no". there is money to be made here.

That's not true and a very much defeatist view. Yes, you can talk with people if they're willing to listen and maybe even respond. Yes, even if they're extremely popular already. Even if they're richer than you.

Re: Caniemail.com – like caniuse but for email content

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Post by another_kel »

rjzzleep wrote: post #159
ryanbigg wrote: post #66

What an excellent resource! (And yes Outlook is a pain and supports so very little!) We've tried building email templates for notifications for our apps where I work, and it has typically been a pain. We have since swapped to using mjml ( https://mjml.io/ ) to build the templates, and it's working wonders. The output seems the be the most compatible with all different devices that we've tested on. The other tool we e…

> What an excellent resource! (And yes Outlook is a pain and supports so very little!) So outlook today is the internet explorer of mail?

Kind of. Though if outlook magically goes away we'll still make emails with because most clients still do not support even flex-direction. Outlook is just exceptionally bad with stuff like width:100px working on table elements, but not on , or padding working only on specific elements.

Re: Caniemail.com – like caniuse but for email content

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Post by jpecar »

Soooooo happy that my mail client is not even on the list here. It automatically strips out anything remotely looking like html and it sends out plain text emails only, as email was designed to be and should still be.

Anyone sending me css garbage will be directed to /dev/null. Thanks.

Re: Caniemail.com – like caniuse but for email content

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Post by rakoo »

ktosobcy wrote: post #142
lelanthran wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> IMO, HTML was the worst thing that ever happened to email. Plain text content is the best content. Your first statement might be true (it's debatable). Your second is definitely false. Lets assume that HTML really was the worst thing that ever happened to email. Plain text content for email is still not the best content. People want to: 1. Click on a link in the email, not fumble with copy and paste on their phone.…

1. all links are click-able at this point; what's more plain-text would force to provide just a link without all the tracking garbage 2. you can have paragraphs and headings... it's just a matter of structure - using html you can write a wall of text just fine 3. not sure if needed, besides you can attach images to plain text (though not inlining) or click-able links to external sources (at exact place) 4. still - ea…

> what's more plain-text would force to provide just a link without all the tracking garbage

I'm glad that you never ever received any link to some derivation of st.es.rui.tracking/bzzz/pfrrrrt?campaign=hn that hide the real link, but in the real world, that's how tracking is done. Plain text doesn't prevent anything.

> not sure if needed, besides you can attach images to plain text (though not inlining) or click-able links to external sources (at exact place)

For a Linux user, you can already build such a system yourself quite trivially by getting an FTP account, mounting it locally with curlftpfs, and then using SVN or CVS on the mounted filesystem. From Windows or Mac, this FTP account could be accessed through built-in software.

You want to argue that plain text is better, but your arguments are that plain tex, are better for you. Don't make the mistake to assume that your specific experience is a workable average.

Re: Caniemail.com – like caniuse but for email content

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Post by mike31fr »

jpecar wrote: post #166

Soooooo happy that my mail client is not even on the list here. It automatically strips out anything remotely looking like html and it sends out plain text emails only, as email was designed to be and should still be. Anyone sending me css garbage will be directed to /dev/null. Thanks.

Reminds me of someone I knew 15 years ago, who often said "Anyone sending me text messages with abbreviations doesn't deserve a response". Sadly, now this guy has hardly any friends.

Re: Caniemail.com – like caniuse but for email content

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Post by mavhc »

candiddevmike wrote: post #12

IMO, HTML was the worst thing that ever happened to email. Plain text content is the best content.

Surely lack of soft wrapping in the first version was the worst thing to happen to email, that breaks quoting, which leads to top posting.

Also lack of a signature section, relying on weird -- \n hacks

Re: Caniemail.com – like caniuse but for email content

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Post by prmoustache »

legitster wrote: post #90
candiddevmike wrote: post #12

IMO, HTML was the worst thing that ever happened to email. Plain text content is the best content.

> Plain text content is the best content. Hard disagree. Things like bolding text, adding pictures, changing colors, etc are very important for the emails I send. So some amount of HTML is important to me.

Gemtext[1] would have been perfect and way enough while still being legible on a terminal. Italic and bold can be done via unicode, you don't need a markup language for that.

[1] https://geminiprotocol.net/docs/gemtext.gmi

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