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The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Post by marcinzm »

brevitea wrote: post #150
cogman10 wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree, it is a looks problem. Capability wise, Siri and Google assistant do most of what rabbit did. They are well positioned to be able to expand every bit as quickly as rabbit can.

One notable difference is that Apple and Google don't have your interaction data at the end of the day. Well, unless Rabbit sells it to them.

You do realize Google and Apple control 100% of the phone market, right? They don't need Rabbit's interaction data. They have their own. Their beta users probably provide more data than Rabbit's whole user base will.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Post by ok_dad »

dan_quixote wrote: post #149
adgjlsfhk1 wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

because if it's just an android app, you have to wonder why it's not just an app

> why it's not just an app If it's just an app...their hardware has no reason to exist AND they are competing directly with Google/Microsoft.

I don’t get why people would pay for a bright orange box, or a snazzy little pin, when you can do the exact same thing with a phone app. Siri and Google’s offering on Android phones will eliminate this market when they start in on this stuff. I don’t see why any company making an AI widget would be valued high, unless they’re trying to get bought by Apple.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Post by ToucanLoucan »

nikcub wrote: post #157
tb1989 wrote: post #87

Doesn't surprise me. In my opinion, many companies try to achieve outrageous premiums by taking the route of teen engineering (the originator of hype). In addition to rabbit, there is also a series of nothing products. This doesn't convince the tech fetishists. In fact, I think te's contribution to music is very limited, even harmful, especially when I see the latest Yamaha even imitating te, which feels a bit funny…

Twitter thread on rabbit's founder and his previous involvement with NFTs that he scrubbed: https://twitter.com/Andyparackal/status/1785676408280498655

Pikachu's everywhere were shocked.

This is just the same guy, over and over. If he isn't too old, I bet he was into dropshipping too. Always on whatever new grift, always ready to start selling shovels to gold miners. I wish people were smarter about this stuff.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Post by MichaelZuo »

marcinzm wrote: post #161
brevitea wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One notable difference is that Apple and Google don't have your interaction data at the end of the day. Well, unless Rabbit sells it to them.

You do realize Google and Apple control 100% of the phone market, right? They don't need Rabbit's interaction data. They have their own. Their beta users probably provide more data than Rabbit's whole user base will.

Huawei alone has >5%, and definitely at least a fifth of that install base is on harmonyos 4 which runs on a unique microkernel.

So there's no way this is true. Google and Apple probably don't even control 95% circa Q1 2024.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Post by nosrepa »

dvngnt_ wrote: post #146
paxys wrote: post #78

This entire device category is dead the second Apple & Google release their own AI assistants baked into the mobile OS.

you can already replace assistant with Gemini

And I won't until it lets me turn off my lights with my phone locked.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Post by MetaWhirledPeas »

BoiledCabbage wrote: post #160

It sounds like this product isn't where it should be, and likely shipped too early. That said long term I want them or others to succeed. The last thing I want (and most others should want) is a world where only Apple and Google are the only ones hosting mobile AI products. As any phone OS integrated Apple AI or Google AI will beat out any shipped apps store AI app long term. If a new hardware form factor is the way…

> If a new hardware form factor is the way to break that duopoly then I wish them all the best.

The only real allure of a separate device, for me, is isolating the bot from my data. I don't want it reading my emails and notifications and who knows what else. I suppose you could also market this for kids but they didn't go that route.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Post by aeurielesn »

rideontime wrote: post #96
aeurielesn wrote: post #86

To be honest, I still don't understand the appeal of this product. I've always got a "one-time quick-cash hustle" video out of it and I can't trust it.

s/video/vibe?

You're correct. I didn't even notice the typo until now!

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Post by dyauspitr »

BoiledCabbage wrote: post #160

It sounds like this product isn't where it should be, and likely shipped too early. That said long term I want them or others to succeed. The last thing I want (and most others should want) is a world where only Apple and Google are the only ones hosting mobile AI products. As any phone OS integrated Apple AI or Google AI will beat out any shipped apps store AI app long term. If a new hardware form factor is the way…

Their product doesn’t make any sense besides as an app. No one is going to carry a separate device around when your smartphone can do everything it can better. The chatGPT app on the iPhone already does everything the rabbit does better. They offer nothing.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Post by cowsup »

MetaWhirledPeas wrote: post #166
BoiledCabbage wrote: post #160

It sounds like this product isn't where it should be, and likely shipped too early. That said long term I want them or others to succeed. The last thing I want (and most others should want) is a world where only Apple and Google are the only ones hosting mobile AI products. As any phone OS integrated Apple AI or Google AI will beat out any shipped apps store AI app long term. If a new hardware form factor is the way…

> If a new hardware form factor is the way to break that duopoly then I wish them all the best. The only real allure of a separate device, for me, is isolating the bot from my data. I don't want it reading my emails and notifications and who knows what else. I suppose you could also market this for kids but they didn't go that route.

Marketing it to children means you have to start worrying about COPPA (if in the US, where Rabbit is HQ'd) or similar legislation elsewhere. An AI device that accepts voice input and is supposed to learn and adapt to your use-case is at ends with laws that say you cannot collect any information from children — not even an email address or username.
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