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IBM nearing a buyout deal for HashiCorp, source says

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Re: IBM nearing a buyout deal for HashiCorp, source says

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Post by mroche »

bobo_legos wrote: post #141
andrenth wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is someone working on a Nomad fork?

Off topic but how is Nomad for running production workloads? My org has been wanting to push into containerization, but we're finding the complexity of k8s a high barrier to entry given our small team and lack of in house knowledge.

Is there a specific aspect of k8s that's causing friction along the learning curve? I'm assuming your referring to the developer side of the equation, not the ops/admin workflows.

Before jumping straight into production k8s, something you can mess around with is using Podman to generate[0] and run[1] Kubernetes resources that you can parse through and familiarize yourself with. Paired with Podman Desktop[2] can produce a nice graphical environment. After that you could take a look at more production-simulating environments with minikube[3], OpenShift Local[4] (very much recommend if you have the resources to run it), and the no-cost OpenShift Sandbox[5].

In general, the Red Hat Developer[6] site has a lot of good resources to learn from, both passive and interactive. I highly recommend going through the courses and tutorials available if it can help your team skill up (assuming k8s is the direction you want to go in).

[0] https://docs.podman.io/en/latest/markdown/podman-generate.1....

[1] https://docs.podman.io/en/latest/markdown/podman-kube.1.html

[2] https://podman.io/features | https://podman-desktop.io/

[3] https://minikube.sigs.k8s.io/docs/

[4] https://developers.redhat.com/products/openshift-local/overv...

[5] https://developers.redhat.com/developer-sandbox

[6] https://developers.redhat.com/

Re: IBM nearing a buyout deal for HashiCorp, source says

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Post by arcbyte »

ThinkBeat wrote: post #137
arcbyte wrote: post #104

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I've worked in a financial company running on mainframes. They were the least reliable part of the whole organization. The only reason they're still around is they've become hostages of the mainframe. My experience is that nobody actually likes the mainframe or respects it. They just tolerate it.

Being held hostage I can understand and see that point of view. When it comes to IBM z/series not being reliable though that is certainly not my experience. Do you know which generation this was? Were they quite old? Were there repeated hardware failures? Operating system? program crashes?

I'm sure the mainframe itself is ironclad. It's the programs that crashed all the time, the fact they couldn't scale the load to match growth in time, they couldnt get developers to make updates at the volume required. As a platform for the business it was as stable and reliable as sand in a hurricane.

Re: IBM nearing a buyout deal for HashiCorp, source says

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Post by pjmlp »

hinkley wrote: post #147
pjmlp wrote: post #121

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J2EE was created by Sun, based on a Objective-C framework. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_Objects_Everywhe... JSON and YAML keep trying to re-invent the nice tooling ecosystem from XML, badly.

Sun Proposed J2EE (and made a mess of it) but what it is and what it has been had a lot of chefs. IBM had a lot to do with both XML and J2EE being used in the most Rube Goldbergian senses possible. They didn't invent XML either.

Lots of companies had a lot to to with J2EE and XML, they are both standards, designed by a consortium of companies.

Sun, Oracle, Weblogic, IBM, Red-Hat, Rational, Microsoft, Pivotal, Apache Foundation,....

And if I have to chose between XML, endless annotations, anemic JSON, YAML spaghetti, I will take XML, thank you very much.

Re: IBM nearing a buyout deal for HashiCorp, source says

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Post by nodesocket »

neom wrote: post #160
nodesocket wrote: post #7

Well, not who I was hoping would acquire and not for the price. Still down 30% on my $HCP investment.

I'm underwater on it too, was hoping to at least only take a 10/20% haircut. Where'd you see the price?

Sorry, I don’t think price has been announced. I bought more shares today (basically gamble) that the deal goes through and it’s higher than $30 share. Not financial advice :-).

Re: IBM nearing a buyout deal for HashiCorp, source says

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Post by bonzini »

yencabulator wrote: post #157
mattl wrote: post #148

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Yeah RHEL has had a gratis developer license from their website for maybe a decade now? Before that I would pay $49 a year for it.

As far as I understand, you still need to connect to the Red Hat license server, and you're limited to 16 machines. That's just stupidly unsuitable for a CI worker pool of hundreds of VMs being created from scratch for every run.

If you do pay for RHEL you can have free non production subscriptions. Of course it's probably suspicious to pay for 1 production and 20000 testing servers, but it's pretty good if you are too small to negotiate an unlimited-machine subscription and you want to use RHEL in production.

https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/07/06/what-quali...

Re: IBM nearing a buyout deal for HashiCorp, source says

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Post by bonzini »

vram22 wrote: post #142
otterley wrote: post #89

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> IBM killed Centos for profit. That process began happening long before the IBM acquisition when Red Hat hired Karanbir Singh (CentOS's maintainer) in 2014.

What's the story behind that? IIRC, I saw something about it on HN at the time, but did not read it, being busy.

Red Hat had open source/community versions of their products, for example OpenShift Origin (now OKD) and RDO (for OpenStack). They wanted to use CentOS but it was not working well because release dates of CentOS were not predictable.

So they acquihired CentOS, but in doing that they changed its target from "community of users [that don't want to pay for RHEL]" to "community of developers that target RHEL". CentOS Stream is much better (though not perfect) for the latter population.

That said, there are many people using CentOS Stream in production (including myself).

Re: IBM nearing a buyout deal for HashiCorp, source says

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Post by bonzini »

xyst wrote: post #60

Mitchell, one of the co founders, left HashiCorp in December 2023 [1] It’s either terrible timing (missed on more money?) or he knew about it and decided months in advance that it’s not worth the trouble of staying on (ie, look at the aftermath of the RedHat and IBM acquisition). [1] https://www.hashicorp.com/blog/mitchell-reflects-as-he-depar...

What's the aftermath of the Red Hat and IBM acquisition? I've been at Red Hat since 2009 myself, and have hardly seen the difference over the last five years.

Re: IBM nearing a buyout deal for HashiCorp, source says

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Post by proxysna »

bobo_legos wrote: post #141
andrenth wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is someone working on a Nomad fork?

Off topic but how is Nomad for running production workloads? My org has been wanting to push into containerization, but we're finding the complexity of k8s a high barrier to entry given our small team and lack of in house knowledge.

Been running both nomad and k8s in prod for the last few years. Nomad has been stable and reliable to the point of replacing k8s in some projects because of how easy it is to work with and onboard developers.

Re: IBM nearing a buyout deal for HashiCorp, source says

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Post by eraser215 »

microtonal wrote: post #29
sneed_chucker wrote: post #6

Wasn't on my bingo card, that's for sure. Say what you will about big blue, they repeatedly seem to know who to acquire in order to buy themselves another 10 years of relevance.

Well, they also have Red Hat, HashiCorp is right up the same alley.

Which alley do you mean?

Re: IBM nearing a buyout deal for HashiCorp, source says

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Post by m1keil »

Back when Mitchell left, I commented the following "I hope Hashicorp will manage to find its stride and not end up as some bullet point in a long "solutions" portfolio of some software conglomerate.".

Hearing about the intention to sell and now IBM... well, that sucks.

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