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Re: This is a teenager

#163
Yeah, lots of people are traumatized. Lots of people have seen close friends or family members get killed... some have been sexually exploited... I'm not sure the answer is for them to get a degree in communications.

And furthermore, what actually is stopping them from getting a college degree if they so choose? The price. What is driving up the price?

Re: This is a teenager

#164
It's hard to take the Western world seriously. There was a guy on Reddit who lamented how so many Americans live in their cars, unlike Indians or Chinese. The 15th percentile in India puts one at 10k INR / year apparently and this constant woe and gloom in the US does not have a counterpart.

It would seem that some degree of thriving requires striving. The median person here has an iPhone - a luxury device. Here, the cultural belief is that if some other guy is richer than you, he cheated his way there. And you should steal from him. And the relentless woe is me whining about normal life.

"We were the first generation who had to live through 9/11 and a pandemic and the global financial crisis!"

Bro, in the '90s India was testing nuclear weapons and Pakistan had them and the possibility that two nuclear armed nations would go to war was real. There were massive genocides. The Gulf War. The President was impeached. The Unabomber. The LA Riots. In the '80, the AIDS pandemic was getting known and it wouldn't be handled for 30 years! It was a shadowy figure. Challenger blew up. Lockerbie bombing. The Iran-Iraq War. The Soviets invaded Afghanistan. The UK fought the Argentines in the Falklands. The French blew up the Rainbow Warrior. This is what normal life looks like. Things happen.

The number one thing that has come out of the modern Internet is this whiny brigade of losers who want to blame everything in the world for their problems. The majority of Americans are actually happy with their own lives. It's these few loud whiners. No, dude, 9/11 isn't why you can't get a girlfriend. Get a grip.

Re: This is a teenager

#165
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think social and individual expectations are a big part of this. Why is Alex depressed? If they had 20k more a year, would they be happier, or just 2 steps ahead on and empty hedonistic treadmill. Alex now has a new mustang, but is still depressed and fails as a parent. I think it would be interesting to see the relative impact of a 2 parent + low risk home vs income, and I think there is a lot lost when people ass…

Money actually does buy happiness, despite what the wealthy would like you to believe. It is very likely that yes, he would in fact be happier with an extra 20k a year. You don't know he'd have a new mustang; that's just you projecting. He might put the extra 20k a year into savings for his kid's education - I know that feeling like I'm setting my kids up for future success makes me happy.

> Money actually does buy happiness, despite what the wealthy would like you to believe.

Individual happiness and being a good parent (which contributes to breaking the cycle) don't necessarily intersect as much as you think, or at least it's based on the individual.

Some people's happiness is only marginally related to how well their kids are doing (as evident by rise in single-parent households), so the 20k may contribute essentially 0 to the long term solution.

> You don't know he'd have a new mustang; that's just you projecting.

If I don't know, then you don't know either. You're taking the other good extreme and presenting is at fact. The reality is somewhere in the middle.

Re: This is a teenager

#166
post #136

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Science and research are funded in phases. So greater awareness and understanding of a particular problem can often fund the research towards finding solutions. I hear your frustration that there aren't proposed solutions here but I don't think that's the point of this--awareness is.

I do know some teachers who work with very high risk kids. I can imagine some of these findings presented in an appeal to get more funding for their work as they are horribly under resourced to meet the need.

Re: This is a teenager

#167

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Less kids in households that don't want them. This is a pipeline problem. Intentional children only. Hard topic to cover online, nuance and emotions on the topic. > I volunteer in a local school. It's not always fun, but something has to change. You're a good person doing necessary work. There aren't enough humans doing it, but it matters to who you're helping.

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Are you suggesting that humanity will die out so long as only willing, intentional parents have children? That is an interesting thesis and conclusion to come to (total fertility rate = 0 vs somewhere between 0 and 2.1 [replacement rate]).

We should empower people who want children to succeed, and empower people who don't want children to never have them. What happens after that, we can solve for.

Re: This is a teenager

#168

Kind of cool, but the conclusion was completely backwards. The final line of the study was "So he is our collective responsibility. They all are.", but the entire study was about how the home environment affects your outcomes. I guess their conclusion is that if an individual does a bad job raising their kids, it is societies fault.

It also begs the question of nature vs. nurture. If researchers won't take this seriously, then nobody should take their findings seriously. It's almost impossible to untangle, "single-fatherhood leads to bad outcomes because kids need a father figure in the house" from, "single-fatherhood leads to worse outcomes because the type of person who would abandon their children is likely more impulsive and less conscientious than average and those traits are heritable."

Re: This is a teenager

#169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think social and individual expectations are a big part of this. Why is Alex depressed? If they had 20k more a year, would they be happier, or just 2 steps ahead on and empty hedonistic treadmill. Alex now has a new mustang, but is still depressed and fails as a parent. I think it would be interesting to see the relative impact of a 2 parent + low risk home vs income, and I think there is a lot lost when people ass…

I'm not sure who you know that makes $40k and has a foot on a "hedonistic treadmill"

You can certainly go into debt to get your foot onto that treadmill. You can live with your parents and spend the entire $40k on entertainment. The exact figure of the income barely matters. FOMO and consumerist culture almost ensures that everyone is participating.

The companies are certainly happy to take your money, regardless of how hard it will be to pay back.

Re: This is a teenager

#170
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Is your concrete proposal that data should only be allowed to be collected and shared by people with a specific agenda to push?

The author definitely has an agenda to push. They equate saying personal responsibility is the way out of poverty to calling poor people morons. I suspect that the author has specific policy proposals in mind but is intentionally being vague because other people will likely find them extreme.
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