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Re: macOS Sonoma 14.4 might break Java on your machine

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Post by _djo_ »

alex_duf wrote: post #122
blashyrk wrote: post #56

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I cannot believe that, on macOS, high cpu usage leads to audio buffer underruns and popping, like something from the 90s but on today's premium hardware. It's inexcusable. On a platform that is constantly touted as the best for audio work, DAWs etc no less.

changing the volume of the sound under high CPU load will also move the balance one side. I often have to re-center the balance, it's driving me nuts.

I've found this to be useful to solve that problem. https://www.tunabellysoftware.com/balance_lock/

Re: macOS Sonoma 14.4 might break Java on your machine

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Post by merlindru »

SpaghettiCthulu wrote: post #153
blackoil wrote: post #152

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1. Default is now Windows Terminal which is so much better than Cmd and Mac Terminal. 2. Ctrl+C works for copy when text is selected otherwise SIGINT.

But both are awful compared to the other terminal emulators available. My favourites are alacritty and kitty.

IMO Windows Terminal is amazing

Good design, great performance, great text rendering

Has tabs, themes, quake mode, a settings UI, and keyboard shortcuts (that you can rebind)

On macOS, I like iTerm2 a lot!

Re: macOS Sonoma 14.4 might break Java on your machine

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Post by blashyrk »

486sx33 wrote: post #127
blashyrk wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I cannot believe that, on macOS, high cpu usage leads to audio buffer underruns and popping, like something from the 90s but on today's premium hardware. It's inexcusable. On a platform that is constantly touted as the best for audio work, DAWs etc no less.

Thought the popping was a Rosetta 2 bug as I had only noticed it running x86 software on m2 pro. Your explanation makes a lot more sense as x86 is probably the only time I’m pushing the cpu usage high enough. The popping is darn annoying

It precedes the switch to ARM. My 2019 (last Intel generation) MBP also had this issue. And the previous one from 2015 (though that poor thing only had 8GB of RAM).

Re: macOS Sonoma 14.4 might break Java on your machine

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Post by blashyrk »

alex_duf wrote: post #122
blashyrk wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I cannot believe that, on macOS, high cpu usage leads to audio buffer underruns and popping, like something from the 90s but on today's premium hardware. It's inexcusable. On a platform that is constantly touted as the best for audio work, DAWs etc no less.

changing the volume of the sound under high CPU load will also move the balance one side. I often have to re-center the balance, it's driving me nuts.

How the hell does something like that even happen lol

Re: macOS Sonoma 14.4 might break Java on your machine

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Post by grodriguez100 »

renonce wrote: post #159
grodriguez100 wrote: post #151

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I don't think the EU DMA changes will require that JIT is supported. Supporting alternative browser engines is something that can be done perfectly without JIT.

Depends on whether Apple’s own browser engine requires JIT. I think the point is to ensure fair competition.

Uhm, yes, you are right.

Re: macOS Sonoma 14.4 might break Java on your machine

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Post by bzzzt »

user_of_the_wek wrote: post #87
jsheard wrote: post #74

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The problem with third party displays on the Mac is the system has some deeply held assumptions that all monitors are as pixel-dense as the ones which Apple ships with their machines. 100% DPI scaling for classic ~100ppi monitors is a poor experience since macOS no longer supports subpixel font rendering, and DPI scales higher than 100% but less than 200% are really just 200% in a trenchcoat because the system render…

Yes, this is irking me too. You really need a high density display to enjoy macOS, it shouldn't be like that. I guess they like to leave the baggage behind.

"Retina" Macs were introduced 12 years ago. So what should Apple do? Expend serious time and engineering effort to fix problems with hardware that's far behind the times? Nobody's calling for the return of MCGA graphics so it's clear there's a cutoff needed somewhere.

Re: macOS Sonoma 14.4 might break Java on your machine

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Post by bzzzt »

piyush_soni wrote: post #68
bzzzt wrote: post #34

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Strange. I've got the complete opposite experience. Most displays work fine. It helps if you stick with models that advertise at least a bit of macOS support (like some Dells or Samsungs). Docker sucks, but there's Orbstack. I don't care for posix, but most of my *nix tools are available in Homebrew. Network is steady and more bulletproof than wireless on Linux. Is your experience based on a recent mac?

I have a modern Dell supported 4K display supporting USB-C to USB-C connection. macOS shows black screen for a few seconds before being able to show anything. Also using the 4K monitor with an actual 4K resolution makes everything very slow, so I just use it with lower resolutions :|. Never saw such issues on even entry level Windows laptops.

Is it macOS or the monitor not being responsive? Also, if it's slow your laptop might be too old to properly support 4K or you might have misconfigured something.

At least Dell supports their hardware: have you tried updating the monitor firmware or submitting a report?

Re: macOS Sonoma 14.4 might break Java on your machine

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Post by dangus »

baq wrote: post #28

Been saying this for as long as I’ve been using macOS: it is not a developer friendly OS and am close to the conclusion that this reputation is a psy-op. Yeah it’s pretty, it mostly works when the box is first turned on and the hardware is unmatched but macOS itself is actually subpar. QA seems second tier, things you’d except from other OSes like, I don’t know, using a third party second display are just bad experie…

And which commercial OS do you think is better? Windows?

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/66408996/python-not-foun...

> using a third party second display

Has always worked fine for me

> Docker sucks

This is Apple’s fault how? It also sucks on Windows.

> posix compatibility is technically there but isn’t really useful

What does this mean exactly? Can you find an example where it’s not useful? In my experience most of the command line applications I would want on Linux are easily installable via Brew and I can choose all the same shell environments as Linux/Unix.

> The thing randomly loses network and only rebooting fixes it.

On your machine. Not my experience with any Mac I’ve owned. That isn’t expected or common behavior.

> I reboot my corporate Mac more often

I’m going to guess this is because your IT department sucks. I never reboot except for OS updates.

Re: macOS Sonoma 14.4 might break Java on your machine

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Post by bzzzt »

papruapap wrote: post #150
raspasov wrote: post #45

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As of recently, Docker on MacOS has improved and AFAICT the performance penalty is gone. Is the problematic corporate Mac an M-series Mac or Intel? M-series have been great in my experience. I did used to get random full system crashes on Intel Macs which haven't happened in a few years on M1/M2.

Docker Desktop still sucks at least on my corp mac.

I'd recommend you try OrbStack.

Re: macOS Sonoma 14.4 might break Java on your machine

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Post by pdimitar »

SpaghettiCthulu wrote: post #153
blackoil wrote: post #152

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1. Default is now Windows Terminal which is so much better than Cmd and Mac Terminal. 2. Ctrl+C works for copy when text is selected otherwise SIGINT.

But both are awful compared to the other terminal emulators available. My favourites are alacritty and kitty.

Yep, I use Alacritty both on macOS and Linux and I love it. Still not sure about Kitty, I hate Python scripting but might pull the trigger at one point, we'll see.
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