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I always knew I was different, I didn't know I was a sociopath

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Re: I always knew I was different, I didn't know I was a sociopath

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some of the biggest names in history were almost certainly sociopaths. And they were sometimes quite a positive net force. Just about everyone can be put to productive use in the right place, i'm not sure we need to isolate (?) anyone.

I agree that people should be given the opportunity for their natural gifts being used effectively. I do NOT think "I'm a sociopath, sorry that doesn't bother me" is ever an acceptable resolution to the damage, pain and suffering they cause. If you help 100 but you have to destroy 5 to get there, was it worth it? I do not think people deserve the benefit of the doubt to make this ethical call. The problem with sociop…

sometimes (maybe even most of the time) socially manipulative behavior is destructive. but surely not all the time. for example, it might enable you to build a world leading ai company

Re: I always knew I was different, I didn't know I was a sociopath

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Let's genetically profile for it, and if there's a link, screen for embryos that don't have it. This would require a bit more technological advancement of course. But imagine, a world without sociopaths! It would be the biggest generational improvement in the world in history.

This is definitely not it

It unironically and simply is it, albeit on hold for civilizations morally paralyzed by the trauma of WW2.

Re: I always knew I was different, I didn't know I was a sociopath

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Super interesting. I can recognize this behavior with people playing multiplayer games. When there are no stakes, and everything is a game, people mess around – especially when they’re bored. If it’s just a game, who cares? People with extremely low “emotional reactivity” appear unlikely to share with others (why would they, most of us share stuff for empathy - and they may not see the point - or lose out socially).…

Astronauts in the last 50 years spending a lot of time together in a small group in an aluminium can, on the ISS for six month, sometimes for a year. Assuming the ideas of longer Moon and Mars mission will happen, that reality will be far more longer. Split-second decisions may be a thing, but mostly rare.

For long term small groups who won’t drive each other insane, I'd rather select for agreeableness and conscientiousness than low emotional reactivity.

Re: I always knew I was different, I didn't know I was a sociopath

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I agree that people should be given the opportunity for their natural gifts being used effectively. I do NOT think "I'm a sociopath, sorry that doesn't bother me" is ever an acceptable resolution to the damage, pain and suffering they cause. If you help 100 but you have to destroy 5 to get there, was it worth it? I do not think people deserve the benefit of the doubt to make this ethical call. The problem with sociop…

sometimes (maybe even most of the time) socially manipulative behavior is destructive. but surely not all the time. for example, it might enable you to build a world leading ai company

Is this the sama alt account?

Re: I always knew I was different, I didn't know I was a sociopath

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https://old.reddit.com/r/askpsychology/comments/jqewhk/does_... this person is lying, she doesn't have a PhD, she's using someone else's name

To save you reading the reddit thread, here are two posts on it that seem to summarise what they discovered:

From https://old.reddit.com/r/askpsychology/comments/jqewhk/does_... :

    Criminal justice researcher/licensed California therapist here.

    Here is "Patric Gagne's" real personal and professional identify as far as can be gleaned. Her real name is Patricia J Cagle (if anything about her is verifiably real) not Dr. Patricia Gagne. Notably, she did not file a "fictitious business name" in California to operate her clinical practice under a fictitious name. She wrote both her her Modern Love and memoir under a fictitious name and identity. She has conflicting explanations for why her name is "Patric" not Patricia. Clever but deceptive.

    She told the highly credulous NYT David Marchese that she she shortened her name to appear more "masculine than feminine." Her actual performer website states that she changed her name to prevent her clients from knowing who she really is. Her acting profile states that her false identity is "so far working:"

    "Patric" is also -looking at real information- an Improve theatre performer and claims that she hides her real identity so that her, presumably vulnerable psychotherapy clients, cannot find out anything about her real, private life. Her photos verify the actor and the author are the same woman

    She may or may not have graduated from UCLA and received a BA, but records cannot be found. (I have an undergraduate degree from Yale-easily located as are my graduate degrees from University of San Francisco). Her graduate degree, is a PsyD, not a Phd. It was granted from a sketch graduate school in LA. She does appear to have a provider number but not under her name or identity and it may or may not be as a MA counselor or PsyD.

    It is critical to state that the REAL Dr. Gagne is a much older, eminent Dr. of Sociology with 72 major peer reviewed articles in gender studies and interesting subjects like motorcyclists. I wrote her to alert her.

    Other than Modern Love, I could not find a single reference to any articles, studies or any-general readership article/study/ essay or any evidence of advocacy. Lies.
And, from https://old.reddit.com/r/askpsychology/comments/jqewhk/does_... :

    I don’t see where it says it offered a phd, the website does mention a PsyD program. PsyD is also a psychology doctoral program but based in clinical skills not research and meant to be more of a professional program than academic. A lot of these predatory grad schools did/do PsyD programs instead as they are generally not as competitive as a phd, and are generally paid doctoral degrees as opposed to a phd which is normally funded.
Tantalising. It could be anything from a mostly truthful tale with a few deceptions to preserve the career of phycologist with a difficult personality to almost total bullshit. "Almost" because it would be an excellent example of what psychopathy can deliver.

Re: I always knew I was different, I didn't know I was a sociopath

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I think it’s easy enough to explain. I’m asexual and don’t feel sexual attraction. In fact I’m completely blind to it. I definitely noticed something was wrong with me once I started school. Since then, I am constantly reminded of that by everyone around me. They have something I’m expected to have. Just imagine if you were the weird one because you were the only person with emotions. You can’t escape it. You can’t f…

On the flip side, the vast majority of people can't make up a username as cool as yours.

Sure they can. Mine is just variation of the traditional furry fandom [adjective][species] username. Plenty of furry writers have much cooler names than me.

I'll leave figuring out which species as an exercise for the reader. Hint: highly-gregarious African canid with the same initials as All-Wheel Drive.

Re: I always knew I was different, I didn't know I was a sociopath

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i think this is positive. because it means therapists can empathize when people feel that there is something wrong with them. there is nothing worse than a therapist who doesn't take your feelings seriously. also, when you do need therapy yourself, depending on what kind of therapist you get, you can end up spending a lot of time learning just for your own sake. my brother did that, and at some point he was able to e…

I don't want therapists to empathize and feel my emotions, I want them to sympathize and understand why I feel that way. You don't want doctors who have compromised their judgment by being in emotional states from self inflicted empathy when trying to treat people in a judgment free and rational way. Taking my feelings seriously as another input to the question of my mental state is different than feeling a personal…

I want them to sympathize and understand why I feel that way

yes, exactly. english is not my first language, so maybe i am not applying the right terms. either way i think is easier for the therapist to understand their patients if they themselves feel that there is something different about them.

Re: I always knew I was different, I didn't know I was a sociopath

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The idea that consent is both necessary AND sufficient needs to be laid to rest. Consent may be necessary (there can be discussions when and where it is necessary and what that means, for example "consenting" to taxes, etc) but it is not sufficient in all cases.

Yeah its a bit of dangerous idea to act like its okay to do anything to people if they ostensibly "consent".

Do anything? Doping has been a "problem" in cycling since the start of the sport. It's not like Lance Armstrong was the first or last person to cheat like that. He was just the best and I find it admirable.
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