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Journalist casualties in the Israel-Gaza war

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Re: Journalist casualties in the Israel-Gaza war

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> Around 10% of Gaza's journalists have been killed versus 2.5% of healthcare workers. One possible explanation is that journalists have a much higher probability of being close to where the fighting is, than healthcare workers.

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Re: Journalist casualties in the Israel-Gaza war

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No one celebrates the deaths of Russian journalists.

That’s objectively not true. Several Reddit forums were doing so when it was thought that WarGonzo had been shot in a trench.

Well you’re right. There’s a super small highly political motivated group of people who will celebrate the deaths of Russian journalists.

The vast majority of people don’t

Re: Journalist casualties in the Israel-Gaza war

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I think it is something like "the wisdom of the crowd is the collective opinion of a diverse independent group of individuals rather than that of a single expert." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisdom_of_the_crowd

That would apply if HN was not actively moderated...

It's not that actively moderated. dang uses a pretty light hand here.

Re: Journalist casualties in the Israel-Gaza war

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> Hamas based their operations where conventional rules of war prohibit fire. This has not stopped the IDF

Protected sites lose their protected status under the law of armed conflict if they are used to hide/support combatants. Agree or disagree with Israel's targeting policies; that's still the law and has been for decades.

If the law permits thousands of innocents to be slaughtered, then maybe it needs to change.

Re: Journalist casualties in the Israel-Gaza war

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Israel has ordered hospitals to evacuate, e.g.: https://healthpolicy-watch.news/who-calls-for-israel-to-resc... I think you're generally wrong on the "they have not been doing" comment. Israel has been giving warnings, and those warnings were intentionally being ignored to maximize the damage to Israel's reputation. But if you have some comprehensive data here I'd be interested in seeing it. From my observation the p…

I didn't say that Israel has never ordered an evacuation. I pushed back on the commenter who stated that finding a militant in a hospital or school makes it a valid target. > From my observation Well from Human Rights Watches observation: > Human Rights Watch has not been able to corroborate them, nor seen any information that would justify attacks on Gaza hospitals. When a journalist at a news conference showing vid…

When it comes to international law, i think human rights groups are more like the "prosecuter" than a neutral party. They have an interest in this conflict that is not the same as Israel's.

When HRW says Israel is bad, i think its a bit like when a cop says the person they arrested is bad. It may very well be true, but i wouldn't put it as a sure thing until some sort of trial is done.

P.s. in regards to "porportionate" - keep in mind that has a special definition in international law that is different from how people use it in normal conversation.

Re: Journalist casualties in the Israel-Gaza war

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Israel has ordered hospitals to evacuate, e.g.: https://healthpolicy-watch.news/who-calls-for-israel-to-resc... I think you're generally wrong on the "they have not been doing" comment. Israel has been giving warnings, and those warnings were intentionally being ignored to maximize the damage to Israel's reputation. But if you have some comprehensive data here I'd be interested in seeing it. From my observation the p…

if Russia says that everyone in the UK has to leave the UK that doesn't give them the right to bomb every hospital in the UK

That's absolutely not a reasonable comparison.

Re: Journalist casualties in the Israel-Gaza war

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10% would be considered an extremely high death rate for soldiers involved in the fighting. Even 2.5% for healthcare workers is ridiculously high. Would be interesting to see what the death rates for journalists, medics, soldiers, etc was in afghan war, iraq war, vietnam war, etc. I highly doubt any reaches 10%.

> 10% would be considered an extremely high death rate for soldiers involved in the fighting. Even 2.5% for healthcare workers is ridiculously high. Hamas based their operations where conventional rules of war prohibit fire. That makes comparing casualty rates incredibly difficult. (To my knowledge, nobody else has done this so comprehensively. Though given its success, I expect it to be emulated. Which unfortunately…

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