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Re: Facing reality about the EU is a core requirement for good management

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Post by Kelteseth »

GuB-42 wrote: post #115
drooopy wrote: post #26

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Despite the rise of far right populist parties, Europe tends to lean more on the left side of the political spectrum compared to America, and corporate worship is a relatively new thing over here. People tend to have more faith in governments and treat companies with more distrust, compared to the US which seems to be the other way around.

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No. The current German (extremist) far right AfD, does endorse less regulation, no subsidies for farmers and the free market.

Re: Facing reality about the EU is a core requirement for good management

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Post by kerkeslager »

VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #111
ragebol wrote: post #68

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The cookie warnings are a result of companies not taking a pretty obvious hint: don't do tracking.

Any lawmaker with an ounce of foresight would have recognized the pervasive cookie banners as the logical consequence of the law. If you give companies an easy copy-and-paste way to get around a single regional law then they will do the quickest dumbest thing possible to get what they want no matter who the visitor is and where they're located. The EU laws are poorly conceived, poorly written, and now we all have to…

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Re: Facing reality about the EU is a core requirement for good management

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Post by Ma8ee »

VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #111
ragebol wrote: post #68

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The cookie warnings are a result of companies not taking a pretty obvious hint: don't do tracking.

Any lawmaker with an ounce of foresight would have recognized the pervasive cookie banners as the logical consequence of the law. If you give companies an easy copy-and-paste way to get around a single regional law then they will do the quickest dumbest thing possible to get what they want no matter who the visitor is and where they're located. The EU laws are poorly conceived, poorly written, and now we all have to…

Those cookie warnings make me immediately close every website that doesn't make it very easy to opt out from tracking. I don't think I miss much, since the correlation between websites that tries to make as much as possible from every visit and those that puke out shallow, easily produced, content is very strong.

Re: Facing reality about the EU is a core requirement for good management

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Post by CalRobert »

paulsutter wrote: post #48
mjburgess wrote: post #24

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It does seem they've mistaken the general sentiment towards government regulation in europe, which is typically, "more, better". Since we have so many consumer protections, much of how we end up engaging with the law around business practices is to our benefit . We're always aware we can raise bad business practices with an ombudsman (etc.). So our lived experience of government regulation is, in large part, positive…

Yes each time we see these cookie warnings, we admire a system that does so much to our benefit

They should be opt-in though, not opt-out. I believe the current pattern is illegal, but unenforced.

Re: Facing reality about the EU is a core requirement for good management

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Post by overstay8930 »

7moritz7 wrote: post #156
overstay8930 wrote: post #145

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> rapidly declining Source? I need it urgently because a lot of my money is on the stock market both in the US and EU and I seem to have missed something significant

You know the eurozone is in a recession right?

Re: Facing reality about the EU is a core requirement for good management

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Post by gpderetta »

llm_trw wrote: post #82
dkjaudyeqooe wrote: post #10

What amazes and perplexes me is that Apple thinks it can effectively play politics against the EU and that somehow their customers will back them in the face of the "consequences" Apple applies, which are pretty transparent and really quite amateurish (eg no more web apps for you!). As the article states, the first mistake Apple makes is thinking the EU is somehow like the US, but I can't see how any large proportion…

I think there needs to be a word like "Paris syndrome" for when Americans meet actual Europeans and find out their politics. I've not met anyone who doesn't work in Brussels who thinks the EU isn't a dysfunctional pile of shit. The most spirited defense I've heard of it is "Well at least it keeps the Germans from invading again.". > The EU, it's better than genocide, by a bit - probably. -- Enthusiastic EU supporter,…

I agree it is dysfunctional, but it is often less dysfunctional than a lot of local government.

- an Italian-living-in-UK that is a somewhat enthusiastic EU supporter

Re: Facing reality about the EU is a core requirement for good management

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Post by MarcusE1W »

redwood wrote: post #15

I understand where the author is coming from and It is important to have a realist perspective on what is driving European strategy or else we will be in denial. I think it's also important to recognize that the west are interconnected in many real ways beyond economic. The first and most clearly top of mind recently is the US defense umbrella which allows the EU to invest on other things instead of defense. Another…

> As much as many Europeans may loathe the united states First to get it out of the way, I don't think many Europeans loathe the USA. Some might disagree with some of the major influences from the US, but that comes from a position of respect, something like agree to disagree.

With regards to the health R&D, well. My view is that to call what happens in the US subsidizing others sounds surprisingly charitable when it is all but that. The US health industry is a surprisingly economically unregulated cut-throat market. What the private companies that make up the majority of the American health industry do is what they are supposed to do, maximize profits. No surprise there. What is surprising is that some people expect that maximizing profits leads to good and value for money healthcare for individual people.

What happens is that the US health system/regulations/laws lead to high prices for patients and huge profits for companies. So if the US intention is to have good health care they shot themself in the foot. But I don't know that.

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Post by eadmund »

ragebol wrote: post #68
paulsutter wrote: post #48

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Yes each time we see these cookie warnings, we admire a system that does so much to our benefit

The cookie warnings are a result of companies not taking a pretty obvious hint: don't do tracking.

The cookie warnings are dumb, because if an individual wishes not to use cookies, he is free to configure his browser to refuse to use cookies. It is entirely and 100% under the user’s control.

Heck, the way the cookie protocol works the server already says ‘hey, may I store this cookie?’ by sending the Set-Cookie header. The user’s browser doesn’t have to do anything if he doesn’t want it to!

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Post by mk89 »

yourusername wrote: post #92
paulsutter wrote: post #48

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Yes each time we see these cookie warnings, we admire a system that does so much to our benefit

I actually like them. It's eye opening when a a website wants to share your data with their 283 partners.

283? You're talking about a personal blog, right?

I have seen 500+. Which is like wtf is going on.

I can't even name 500+ companies or websites, who the hell are these companies?

Re: Facing reality about the EU is a core requirement for good management

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Post by apwell23 »

dkjaudyeqooe wrote: post #10

What amazes and perplexes me is that Apple thinks it can effectively play politics against the EU and that somehow their customers will back them in the face of the "consequences" Apple applies, which are pretty transparent and really quite amateurish (eg no more web apps for you!). As the article states, the first mistake Apple makes is thinking the EU is somehow like the US, but I can't see how any large proportion…

anyone who deoesn't think like me must be brainwashed.
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