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I heavily use Gajim and it works very well on Linux. I couldn't recall any problems I had recently.
Gajim, at least in Windows, has terrible to nonexistent support for (video) calls.
Google has removed Conversations_im from the Play Store
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As pointed out above, Chrome no longer does this... but adding wear is a natural consequence of any hard drive scanning process. SSDs are rated for a certain number of read/write cycles, and every time a block is read, it adds wear. Even spinning rust wears out eventually. Not knowing any details about how often Chrome did this, it is hard to say just how significant this wear would be compared to other normal uses o…
> SSDs are rated for a certain number of read/write cycles, and every time a block is read, it adds wear. Only write cycles cause wear, read cycles don't cause any meaningful wear.
Re: Google has removed Conversations_im from the Play Store
#163I use an open source SPAM call blocker (Yet another call blocker), which works fairly OK by querying a local spam phone number database. Recently Google Play decided to display a permanent notification prompting me to uninstall that "dangerous" app because it could "damage" my device. It's impossible to disable this notification. This app hasn't been updated in years. It has no ads. The only network request it makes…
I’m not an android user but from what I've understood is that Google is desperate to deprecate apps that were compiled for earlier Android SDKs before they introduced more iOS-style privacy APIs
Another topic is how aggressively anti-freedom Android has gotten with the standard practice of root detection. It feels like more tech overall is becoming a walled garden as of late.
Suddenly, they started doing this? I don't rely on Google Play in any capacity, but it is terrifying. Anyone not determined enough to sideload a third party app store or apps in general will find themselves unable to use a substantial amount of projects that relied on outdated SDK or just couldn't keep the pace, even if the code is out there and can be audited.
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> SSDs are rated for a certain number of read/write cycles, and every time a block is read, it adds wear. Only write cycles cause wear, read cycles don't cause any meaningful wear.
Thank you for clarifying that! I should have known that. So perhaps it wouldn't cause any meaningful drive wear, if the system didn't do a lot of writes. Still consumes CPU and power, though.
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As pointed out above, Chrome no longer does this... but adding wear is a natural consequence of any hard drive scanning process. SSDs are rated for a certain number of read/write cycles, and every time a block is read, it adds wear. Even spinning rust wears out eventually. Not knowing any details about how often Chrome did this, it is hard to say just how significant this wear would be compared to other normal uses o…
Right, I understand about wear, but my point is that the behavior described in the links doesn't indicate that Chrome was scanning backup or media drives - only things like the registry, files directly related to Chrome, etc. If I have a drive with a bunch of random files on it, Chrome wasn't scanning those, was it?
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>Chrome constantly scans your harddrive in a way you can't easily turn off, and it's not for your safety: it's for the safety of their ad business to try to catch malware that engages in click fraud. If you have media or backup drives it just constantly adds wear to them. Is this true? Chrome is open source so someone should be able to point out the code that is doing that. What is the source of this info if not the…
I second this. This is a very strong accusation to have no proof.
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>they mean their security from your attempts to defend yourself No, they don't. They are protecting against malicous actors or at the most buggy software doing bad things on accident. >most of the locking down of devices isn't to make it harder for attackers who want your data Advances in this area definitely has been happening. The move to apps getting their own sandbox and having to be explicitly granted permission…
In the first and second part, you've simply defined the very bad actors who want your data as the good guys. On the third point, we are in agreement. They want to make sure that when content right hoarders want to remove the content from the service you've paid for and move it to another service you now have to pay for all over again, you can't just keep a copy of what you already paid for. That's what I meant, keepi…
I didn't do this. Can you explain your thinking?
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As of 2015, League of Legends' chat is xmpp ( https://technology.riotgames.com/news/chat-service-architect... )
9 years ago, Google itself had an XMPP service.
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#169This has been happening to a bunch of XMPP apps recently, and as a maintainer of another one (which closely based on Conversations) I'm fearing the worst next time I submit an update. The worst part is the lack of communication from Google about what they think the problem is. There are plenty of apps that do actually upload contact lists to servers (hi WhatsApp, etc.), and they are still listed on the store. Many XM…
Especially tiktok is still live, and there it's super obvious they upload the contact list. First: they ask you. More importantly though: you don't even need to search for someone or someone's phone. You open the app and get 3 people suggested you never even knew had a tiktok account. Really really creepy when you just exchanged numbers with someone and you can see all their 50 tiktoks. Happened to me with a girl I m…
Re: Google has removed Conversations_im from the Play Store
#170Luckily, it's not like iOS and you can still download an APK or use F-Droid. My impression is that most people who are using these rather obscure communication methods would be able to find the app somewhere else.
The developer relies on the income from Goolge Play Store to keep working on it though: "I understand that most of my audience here on Mastodon is more ideology aligned with F-Droid but the app sales on Google Play store have contributed significantly to me working (almost) full time on #Conversations_im. Without the revenue from Google Play I can’t afford this." -- https://gultsch.social/@daniel/111929678072451151