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Privacy focused platform Skiff is joining Notion, Skiff to be sunset

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Re: Privacy focused platform Skiff is joining Notion, Skiff to be sunset

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I literally just migrated from Proton yesterday. Oh well, Tuta now i guess...

Was it an aspect of Proton that made you switch? Seeing it get mentioned negatively all over this comment section is making me a little concerned.

eh not really, for me it was the fact it took forever to implement some of the features. I also don't use the address much or any of their other features so was looking for a cheaper solution.

Re: Privacy focused platform Skiff is joining Notion, Skiff to be sunset

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If you're interested in an open source, (including the server) self hostable, E2EE and federated/p2p storage, sharing and app protocol (including calendar, docs etc) who doesn't have VC investors, check out Peergos: https://peergos.org Tech book - https://book.peergos.org Source - https://github.com/peergos/peergos Sign up to our server - https://peergos.net/?signup=true

Love the idea of this, wish it had a Docker Container to make deployment easier.

Re: Privacy focused platform Skiff is joining Notion, Skiff to be sunset

#163

If you're interested in an open source, (including the server) self hostable, E2EE and federated/p2p storage, sharing and app protocol (including calendar, docs etc) who doesn't have VC investors, check out Peergos: https://peergos.org Tech book - https://book.peergos.org Source - https://github.com/peergos/peergos Sign up to our server - https://peergos.net/?signup=true

Love the idea of this, wish it had a Docker Container to make deployment easier.

We don't use docker ourselves, but there is a docker image: https://github.com/Peergos/web-ui/pkgs/container/web-ui/1561...

Re: Privacy focused platform Skiff is joining Notion, Skiff to be sunset

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Love the idea of this, wish it had a Docker Container to make deployment easier.

We don't use docker ourselves, but there is a docker image: https://github.com/Peergos/web-ui/pkgs/container/web-ui/1561...

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Re: Privacy focused platform Skiff is joining Notion, Skiff to be sunset

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Proton is perfectly fine and as secure as email gets. I would think there is some sort of a FUD campaign going on against them, if I didn’t believe that people are dumb enough to endlessly spout bullshit on topics they know nothing about without external motivation.

I've noticed that here as well, specifically with Proton. Some sort of cultural quirk I suppose. I'll keep using their service, until I see some more tangible criticism on their security. I've had positive experiences overall. Yes the extra security makes some things harder, like searching. That is a fair tradeoff for me. Only real complaint I have is that Proton Drive is web-only. No supported API, either. We desper…

Also mostly positive experiences, and indeed extra security makes some things harder.

I think you don't hear about the 'silent majority' as much on the internet versus the small minority that's frustrated about something and complains about it.

Proton is simply the best service available at the moment if you value privacy above best usability.

Having said that, there are some limitations that need solving, for example; - can't increase text size in emails (iOS app.) such a basic feature... (you can only pinch to zoom which doesn't work on a small screen.) Some emails are nearly impossible to read. - searching is terrible (it's much much better in the web client, you can even search mail contents there.) - can't get notifications for specific email threads / contacts

For now, i'm happy to pay a company that invests in my privacy, and thereby support future improvements.

Re: Privacy focused platform Skiff is joining Notion, Skiff to be sunset

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What happened to Skiff can happen to any service as long as it has servers. That’s the nature of centralized technology. In a decentralized providerless ecosystem you can buy a company but you cannot buy the ecosystem. So decisions like this can never affect the end user. Decentralized network belongs to users, along with their privacy.

Re: Privacy focused platform Skiff is joining Notion, Skiff to be sunset

#167

What happened to Skiff can happen to any service as long as it has servers. That’s the nature of centralized technology. In a decentralized providerless ecosystem you can buy a company but you cannot buy the ecosystem. So decisions like this can never affect the end user. Decentralized network belongs to users, along with their privacy.

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Re: Privacy focused platform Skiff is joining Notion, Skiff to be sunset

#168

Ah stink. Time to move then. Can anyone recommend a privacy focused email provider that can run free or cheap custom domains?

I have been using a paid Proton Mail plan since 2018, and I _think_ a free plan for a year or two before that. In those years, I've run into two issues worth mentioning: * Android app sending incomplete emails. Sometimes the email would just be truncated once I checked it in my sent folder. They claim this is fixed in their Beta app, but I have not confirmed. * A large (12-ish-GB) file repeatedly failing to download…

Hi there! The Android issue should be resolved but let us know if you experience this again. For any Drive issues, please report it to our support team for review.

Re: Privacy focused platform Skiff is joining Notion, Skiff to be sunset

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https://skiff.com/data-migration I’m really upset about this, I was about to go all in on Skiff after being burnt by ProtonMail. Glad I didn’t. Feel really bad for those who did.

I would check out Mailfence. Best alternative to PM IMO. https://blog.mailfence.com/how-to-migrate-your-skiff-account...

Re: Privacy focused platform Skiff is joining Notion, Skiff to be sunset

#170

Wish the team well, scrambling to get my mail out of the service now. Heads up to folks trying to bring their mail to Proton: the ProtonMail Import-Export tool can't seem to bring in any mail from the Skiff MBOX export. Glancing at the file, it appears to be an original MBOX format export, that is "From " with no quoting, etc. That's rough.

Here is a migration guide: https://proton.me/blog/migrate-skiff-to-proton
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