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Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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I tested it immediately, but it is disappointing. At least here in Switzerland, it is not able to generate images, and a simple "look up this website and summarise the content" does not work either (can't access the website, but its a public website without any crawling limitations). I don't understand why Google is launching a product like this.

I have different levels of access to Bard through different accounts, and the feature set varies wildly. Generating images and summarizing websites is enabled in _some_ configurations, but I have no idea what the rules are.

The feature set also seems to depend on other factors: The account that is images-enabled only does so if I ask in English, but not when asking in any other language I tried.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

#166

Google also updated the Gemini technical report : https://storage.googleapis.com/deepmind-media/gemini/gemini_...

What is the difference to the previous version of the technical report?

Section 6 (post training) and section 7 (responsible deployment).

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

#167

I heavily use Chat GPT's API in my day job, as it is the core of our business (Ai-powered startup). When Gemini Pro launched, me and my team tested it in the same day for our product, but we where disappointed as it is was a bit worse than gpt 3.5 (at least in the same prompts that we already had). I really hope that Gemini Ultra surpass gpt4, it is always exciting to see and use new advanced tech, but I'm still a li…

google is at a catch-up panic mode these days but all the rushed releases so far is still far behind chatgpt per my quick tests.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

#168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As expected, I asked the same questions to perplexity.ai, and it gave a correct response, just with a minor disclaimer at the end explaining the risks.

It's not even funny how much better perplexity.ai is than everyone else

Is it just me or do they not really have any kind of marketing/information pages besides pricing? It just throws you straight in and then depending what you click there's a paywall?

I'm just trying to work out if there's any reason at all not to objectively prefer it to ChatGPT Plus, since it has GPT4 + other models. But does it not do image generation? And I don't know if there's mobile apps (sure I could check the relevant stores, but I'd expect to find it on the website - verifies it is actually an official app not a scam apart from anything else).

Edit: ok, answered on Reddit - https://www.reddit.com/r/perplexity_ai/comments/18eqmig/how_... (nice, it is possible as of December); and via DDG (not linked anywhere on the site?) - https://perplexity.ai/android (nice, there are mobile apps)

Although it doesn't seem very well integrated:

> I'm an AI text-based assistant and I'm unable to generate images. However, I can help you visualize the scene with a description. [...]

and then it appears on the side: '[PRO] Generate image' as described on Reddit. Presumably the nonsense about not being able to generate an image will still be there if I had pro, I just would be able to click that side button and have it then generate one.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

#169

I tested it immediately, but it is disappointing. At least here in Switzerland, it is not able to generate images, and a simple "look up this website and summarise the content" does not work either (can't access the website, but its a public website without any crawling limitations). I don't understand why Google is launching a product like this.

It's confusing because the name Bard and the UI also got an upgrade today, so I thought I was using Gemini Ultra but it turns out I'm not: https://imgur.com/a/3UriYpn — showing that Gemini Advanced is not what I'm using, unless I pay and upgrade. (If you cannot generate images you're likely not using Gemini Advanced.)

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

#170
My impressions after 90 minutes of intensive testing: Overall, on par with original GPT-4 in most aspects, inferior to GPT-4 turbo

Detailed aspects versus GPT-4 turbo 1. World knowledge, slightly inferior. GPT-4 turbo was able to detail a protagonist's childhood year by year for a Japanese novel with near 100% accuracy (That a human reader would get the chronology wrong). Gemini ultra much more easily confused.

2. Creativity, Gemini ultra wins. Its writing style has far more flair than GPT-4 turbo, it also occasionally made some stunning analysis that I never thought of and made perfect sense. GPT-4 turbo is more like a textbook repeater, it doesn't make many mistakes, but also rarely surprises you with anything original.

3. Accuracy, GPT-4 turbo still makes fewer mistakes. Including in subtle logic (Like having a hypothetical battle between two characters in the same universe, considering the strengths and weaknesses of their powers, etc).

So this is definitely Google's first real-deal LLM. Its not better than current GPT-4 turbo, but its getting there. OpenAI must be feeling the fire to release GPT-5 before the end of the year.

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