jQuery v4.0 Beta

Post by duskwuff » Wed, Feb 07, 2024, 6:05 AM UTC

erhaetherth wrote: post #114

dylan604 wrote: post #82

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you think it's the same, but it's not even close to me .ajax({ success:function(result), error:function(xhr), } vs fetch().then((e)=>function()) is even close to being the same, then we're just not even talking the same language

function ajax({url,success,error}) { fetch(url).then(success, error) } Boom, same syntax if that's what you prefer. J/K, the error status handling is not the same and the auto-deserialization isn't present. Not hard to add but it's harder to argue not to use a lib instead of copy-pasting 114 lines of niceties into each project.

Post by tambourine_man » Wed, Feb 07, 2024, 6:12 AM UTC

PrimeMcFly wrote: post #151

tambourine_man wrote: post #146

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>…WordPress is still more than 1/3 of the web… Why still? WordPress, like jQuery, is awesome. It's an incredibly powerful and easy open source CMS. I hope it takes more of the Web. And if you're gonna defend the decentralization of the Web (and I do), it's hard to find a better argument than “just buy a domain and install WordPress”.

It's a buggy insecure mess. No one should be advocating for wordpress.

Post by falsandtru » Wed, Feb 07, 2024, 6:18 AM UTC

ecshafer wrote: post #23

technojunkie wrote: post #18

For those of you who are curious what drives jQuery in 2024 and beyond, you need to remember that WordPress is still more than 1/3 of the web, and the majority of installations and so many plugins critically rely on jQuery. Yes, seriously. Any advances to removing deprecated APIs or functions are great. jQuery will probably be around dominantly on the web for years to come.

Also, jQuery is awesome. People have been in love with the overly complex and fancy javascript frameworks for the last 15 years or so. But jQuery doing dynamic binding to dynamically generated forms for some error states and maybe an ajax calls is literally all the javascript you need in 99% of web pages and the rest is overkill. The industry is going to move away from the complexities to React and towards more of th…

Post by palmfacehn » Wed, Feb 07, 2024, 6:24 AM UTC

krick wrote: post #105

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Also, jQuery is awesome. People have been in love with the overly complex and fancy javascript frameworks for the last 15 years or so. But jQuery doing dynamic binding to dynamically generated forms for some error states and maybe an ajax calls is literally all the javascript you need in 99% of web pages and the rest is overkill. The industry is going to move away from the complexities to React and towards more of th…

I won't dare to predict where industry "is going to move", since I'm not really a frontend developer, so what do I know anyway (and especially since it seems to switch directions every couple of years, and mostly being pulled in all directions simultaneously). But personally I still prefer to use stand-alone JS-scripts and libs included directly into the page, if I can. Mostly because I hate having to deal with compl…

Post by drschwabe » Wed, Feb 07, 2024, 6:29 AM UTC

zztop44 wrote: post #148

drschwabe wrote: post #53

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It's good for quick things and prototyping cause you can always swap out those calls with native later. It's API is generally easier to remember/less typing that most native equivalents. You can also use its API serverside via Cheerio to do parsing & manipulation of html without a dom. edit: also its way more lightweight than React/Vue/Svelte i don't necessarily disagree you shouldn't reach for jQuery if you have a d…

Is it really way more lightweight than Svelte? Svelte has more tooling (of course) but it ships no runtime and only sends the user the JS they actually need to interact with your page.