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LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices

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Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices

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Post by EasyMark »

rchaud wrote: post #152
humpydumpy wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This. I really like the idea of a pocket supercomputer like modern smartphone hardware. But I despise the software ecosystems that apple and google have built for them, with constant surveillance, lock-in, ads, tracking, horrible UIs and centralization.

A computer lets you build and run programs directly on device, with no internet. Our phones are closer to Super Nintendos than supercomputers.

yeah mine was a way to build anxiety via doom scrolling and downloading time wasting games. When I'm on a laptop/desktop, I'm usually actually working or killing time, but since I don't have one with me at all times, it's much easier to limit time wastage.

Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices

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Post by EasyMark »

humpydumpy wrote: post #154
rchaud wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A computer lets you build and run programs directly on device, with no internet. Our phones are closer to Super Nintendos than supercomputers.

True. I like the analogy. The sad thing is that this is purely a software limitation. The hardware would be capable of so much more, it is more powerful than desktop computers of just a couple of years ago.

for the way I use computers these days, it could very easily replace my laptop with a proper monitor and docking solution (but not my tower server/gaming machine)

Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices

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Post by 4oo4 »

grey_earthling wrote: post #87
reify wrote: post #2

I install Lineage on the phones of the elderly at local care homes and any people who are interested in prolonging the life of their old phones. Poor people can't afford a new phone every two years. When in your 80's you dont need or want the constant nagging of apps pestering you when all you want to do is text and call your family and friends. I use abd to delete/disable every unnecessary useless app and leave them…

Can LineageOS do major upgrades without needing support? (so once it's installed you never need to reinstall, and you can keep it safely up-to-date forever by clicking a button every so often - like Silverblue)

It can't, but major upgrades are much easier now if you are using SeedVault to reinstall all your apps and restore your app data.

https://github.com/LineageOS/android_packages_apps_Seedvault

Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices

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Post by atahanacar »

keyringlight wrote: post #123
azalemeth wrote: post #41

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Which country is that, if you don't mind me asking? My experiences have been either a) cancelling my account with no notice due to a policy change (Revolut); b) no cares whatsoever (Monzo, a UK digital bank, TSB, a UK traditional bank, or Danske Bank, a Danish traditional bank) or c) a national identity system (MITiD, a Danish single sign on) blacklisting my account instantly and requiring a single, fragile, loseable…

The other angle to this is that going increasingly web/app based lets them shut down local branches. For my city the last permanent branch is closing soon so should I be locked out of an app the alternative would be the website which last I checked was designed for desktop browsing, or in-person service is a 6 mile journey to a 'mobile branch' available for 45 minutes a week. I'm currently using an old PixelExperienc…

Still more secure than using a browser on Windows, I guess. If that's acceptable, an outdated version or a custom ROM should be even more acceptable. Devs can also selectively disable features that they might deem too insecure.

Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices

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Post by _imnothere »

puzzlingcaptcha wrote: post #142
wkat4242 wrote: post #88

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> Lineage has been very careful to not piss off google by not including microg or alternative webview signatures or means to circumvent device attestation. This love is not returned. I wish they weren't so pedantic about that. At the moment if you even mention microg in the lineage channel you get insta-banned. As you say their hard stance is not doing them any good with Google anyway, they're ignored either way. And…

Is anyone here daily-driving microg and can share their experiences? https://github.com/microg/GmsCore/wiki/Implementation-Status does not exactly inspire confidence.

Definitely not everything works with microG, it kinda depends on your daily usage, for me, I have 3 banking apps working by installing additional modules to have the security checks bypassed(FYI, not all these kind of app uses SafetyNet or Play Integrity), but some apps from government doesn't work so I had to give up on those, other than that it's been a pretty nice experience since about 6 years ago.

Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices

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Post by tnbp »

dheera wrote: post #17
canistel wrote: post #16

I want to, but I cannot. Most of the banking or payment applications baulk at getting a whiff of Lineage. You are then forced to play a cat and mouse game which is quite stressful. It is sad that ROM customisation (and rooting) is stigmatised in the Android world.

Change banks! It's a very easy thing to do to get a new bank account and move your funds over. Or use the web version instead of the app.

This! Your bank should never get a say in what you run on your phone or even if you have a phone. Do not take any such bullshit.

Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices

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Post by ttarr »

_imnothere wrote: post #165
puzzlingcaptcha wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is anyone here daily-driving microg and can share their experiences? https://github.com/microg/GmsCore/wiki/Implementation-Status does not exactly inspire confidence.

Definitely not everything works with microG, it kinda depends on your daily usage, for me, I have 3 banking apps working by installing additional modules to have the security checks bypassed(FYI, not all these kind of app uses SafetyNet or Play Integrity), but some apps from government doesn't work so I had to give up on those, other than that it's been a pretty nice experience since about 6 years ago.

Weird!

Here in UK, using microG, banking apps for Nationwide, Starling, Revolut, HSBC all work with no issues.

Generally, I face no issue using any app.

Location services and notification both work reliably.

Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices

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Post by ttarr »

puzzlingcaptcha wrote: post #142
wkat4242 wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Lineage has been very careful to not piss off google by not including microg or alternative webview signatures or means to circumvent device attestation. This love is not returned. I wish they weren't so pedantic about that. At the moment if you even mention microg in the lineage channel you get insta-banned. As you say their hard stance is not doing them any good with Google anyway, they're ignored either way. And…

Is anyone here daily-driving microg and can share their experiences? https://github.com/microg/GmsCore/wiki/Implementation-Status does not exactly inspire confidence.

It's best to try it, people use different subset of apps.

As I replied below, everything I need works, including a number of banking apps.

I used to use Lineage OS with microG, but now I use iode, very similar.

Note, I never patched or installed something besides microG ever, so my experience is as close to pure microG experience as possible.

Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices

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Post by patrakov »

brnt wrote: post #129
dheera wrote: post #23

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What app? A standard app like Google Authenticator? If so you can get a Yubikey and use Yubikey authenticator on a LineageOS device and it will work fine with all of those services. It follows the same standard as Google Authenticator and is a drop-in replacement.

Each their own individual apps. I only wish they standardized on TOTP or U2F.

The "funny" thing is that the underlying algorithm is often still TOTP. What the banks do not like is the standard QR-code based mechanism of key distribution and the possibility to export the key.

Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices

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Post by CSDude »

shaunpud wrote: post #130
CSDude wrote: post #50

Lineage (as I known it as CyanogenMod) saved a lot of old phones for my family instead of going to dumpster. I have a Samsung tablet that has no way of getting latest certificates to go into internet.

I find their supported devices list is quite small, considering, so did your family have devices on that list, or did you experiment by flashing other hardware?

It covers a lot of Samsung and Xiaomi devices, where I live. But you can find other ROMs in xda-developers very easily.
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