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Re: Working in the Vision Pro [video]

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How long I wonder before Apple is able to link multiple Vision Pros together so that people in the same physical space can share the same augmented reality? Imagine if when he says hello to his partner, she's also wearing a Vision Pro and is able to walk around their house seeing the same reality. That would make the VP much less isolating which is one of the main "I'd never use this" reasons I have against it. I cou…

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Re: Working in the Vision Pro [video]

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Unless your definition of "work" is limited to "programming locally" there are millions of people who have replaced their laptop with an iPad. There are millions more who use it as a content creation tool, despite HN users' insistence of that impossibility. One of my favorite youtubers (1M subscribers) produces his video content on and runs his channel from an iPad.

> One of my favorite youtubers (1M subscribers) produces his video content on and runs his channel from an iPad. What makes you think that I would know this youtuber?

>What makes you think that I would know this youtuber?

Absolutely nothing.

Re: Working in the Vision Pro [video]

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This was a great demo, and the spatial computing stuff is cool, but what? He’s showing off that he has a big screen tv playing a video, overlayed over his big screen tv, playing a video without anyone watching it. He shows video playing cooking tutorials in his kitchen when he and his partner are both in other rooms working at their desks. A “note” pinned to his fridge, that he can only see while wearing the headset.…

It depends on your environment and on the person. But personally for me, the concept of actually being able to physically walk around in a spatial computing environment, and manipulate windows to change different things appeals to my ADD side. I like physically walking around and pacing as I work anyway and this gives me the opportunity to do it by simulating essentially multiple visual input interfaces all over my house.

Being anchored to a single desk and computer exacerbates what is already effectively a fairly sedentary occupation.

Re: Working in the Vision Pro [video]

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How long I wonder before Apple is able to link multiple Vision Pros together so that people in the same physical space can share the same augmented reality? Imagine if when he says hello to his partner, she's also wearing a Vision Pro and is able to walk around their house seeing the same reality. That would make the VP much less isolating which is one of the main "I'd never use this" reasons I have against it. I cou…

This reminds me of some dystopian science fiction film where everyone is immersed in a shiny AR layer, while reality without the layer is dirty and derelict. Scene: A fancy nightclub, pretty people dancing to very loud music, surreal virtual objects and effects everywhere. Swap to reality: The music turns off. It's no longer night. An old, run-down building. Headset people in shabby clothes dancing to inaudible sound…

That's what the end of any good party is like already.

Re: Working in the Vision Pro [video]

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Not being able to break out and spatially arrange different Mac windows on this thing is a major deal breaker right now. I don’t really care about all the apps published to the store. For real productivity I want a full desktop computer in front of me.

There is a github project that lets you do it. Let me try to find it.... here you go https://github.com/saagarjha/Ensemble

Re: Working in the Vision Pro [video]

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> Apple hasn't launched a first-gen product this limited in use since the original iPhone - Apple Watch Series 0 was so underpowered it was borderline unusable. - OSX 1.0 was a buggy, slow, feature-less mess of an operating system. It definitely doesn't seem like Apple minds launching way too early.

Also first gen iPad was basically slow as a crippled sloth. It was quickly abandoned by both consumers and Apple. First gen iPhone wasn't too fast either. The next iterations of iPad and iPhone greatly improved features and performance. It's a good idea to avoid first gen Apple products unless you're minted.

> Also first gen iPad was basically slow as a crippled sloth. It was quickly abandoned by both consumers and Apple

And it had this bulging back so it wouldn't lie still on a table. It was like a bobblehead. It was a really weird design.

The iPad 2 and all further iPads fixed that. And they were all supported for much longer too, yes. It was really a weird 1st gen product.

The same with the iPhone now that I think of it, with its horribly slow 2G and annoyingly recessed headphone jack. Again fixed on the second model.

Oh and the first gen MacBook that had only 1 (deeply recessed) usb port and this huge clamshell case that looked like a ladies handbag if you carried it by its handle. Cool yes but practical no. And the round mouse so you couldn't feel which way was up. Seriously, sometimes I wonder if someone actually tried to use this stuff before it was shipped out the door XD

I had both the iPad 1 and iPhone 1 though and it was cool to be an early adopter. But for the vision pro lol no, out of my price range.

Re: Working in the Vision Pro [video]

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Owner since Friday morning and developer with normally 17k pixels on 4 screens. If you’re seeking to 1:1 your existing flow, not yet. While my Studio Ultra delivers a lag-free crystal clear feed to the VP, not all “non IDE” apps work well in AVP native windows yet.

But, if you exploit the strengths of the platform, it’s quite nice. I physically walk to my analytics station, meeting station, and programming station. The walking helps me think more intentionally between tasks. It is absolutely slower than multitasking IRL, but faster in terms of thought clarity. Like ideas in the shower. I’ve found a good part of two work days has been better spent in the Vision Pro. I doubt every work day will be the same.

I wish I could walk between git work trees.

Re: Working in the Vision Pro [video]

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Isn't Immersed actually going into hardware and also trying to launch their own VR headset now?

Yeah, they have the “Visor”.

Which has a comparable (in fact slightly higher) resolution to the vision pro for only $999 which is impressive. Of course it remains too be seen how it will perform in real life. Also it's really intended just for work, not movies etc.

Re: Working in the Vision Pro [video]

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Two things hidden from this view: 1. There is absurd motion blur whenever you move your head. This has to be some nausea prevention technique but it is extremely frustrating if you’re trying to look back and forth between screens. No setting for this of course because it’s apple. 2. You can have only one window that’s a virtual desktop. Everything else has to be a iOS app so that means you cant have a window for codi…

> Finally the windows are not curved which is worse than my meat space curved ultra wide monitor.

This one seems easily fixed. The Quest can already do this, you can choose if you want them curved or not.

The others I imagine will be harder to fix but I agree they are big impediments for serious productivity.

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