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Re: Google search drops cache link from search results

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Chrome was beyond TERRIBLE compared to Firefox. Firefox: 1)Right click image 2)Save as Chrome: 1)Right click image 2)Can't save as because Google decided so, just like Apple's mentality. Imagine actually utilizing a browser where the maker decides you should not have access to basic features.

I just tried this on Chrome from 2010 + current Chrome and both had "save image" when right clicking an image?

The person is talking about a css trick. You could avoid the "save as" coming up if you made the image the css background url to an empty square.

However, Firefox was smart enough to not be tricked by that.

That's the right move if you side with the consumer and the wrong if you side with the producer. Google is fundamentally highly elitist and that's a pretty easy framework to use if you want to guess their actions.

Re: Google search drops cache link from search results

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I'm surprised I had to scroll down this far to see the obvious. If you need cached versions of websites, just use the InternetArchive and make sure to donate.

It also should be obvious that only a small portion of all pages of the Internet are in InternetArchive.

Yes, it is. I admit it's not a solution for today but relying on a free service by a major corporation that won't accept direct payments for their search service is not a long-term solution.

Re: Google search drops cache link from search results

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I have a feeling this has to do with AI and all the lawsuits regarding content and copyright, storing and displaying the contents of a third party website to the end user might not be the best idea right now (I know the way back machine exists but they’re not a for profit company like google).

I can picture future HN conversations now. "It's a good thing copyright law exists to prevent AI from doing anything useful because I'm fearful of AI." "Hey, does anyone know why the web has become so boring and useless???" Who knows – maybe Google Search won't even show page descriptions in the coming years.

> "Hey, does anyone know why the web has become so boring and useless???"

Yes, I know. Some companies have abused the social contracts of the web which were in place since its inception, and told that they are doing something amazing so they need no permission to do what they're doing.

So the web has responded the way it should.

Re: Google search drops cache link from search results

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Wild guess: Some PM got promoted for discovering that the Ads product could make more display revenue when people don't go to the cached page result.

"Our telemetry shows that many people don't use the brakes often in an electric car, so we've moved them to a sub-menu of the dashboard. We've removed the brake pedal, saving $32 per car."

Re: Google search drops cache link from search results

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I won't be surprised if Archive.org ends up getting screwed at the end of this fight.

They already are, with content platforms clamping down on public access, with more and more content locked away behind exorbitantly expensive APIs (mostly thinking reddit and twitter here)

Yes and no. The deep web has long been much larger than the observable one.

What I'm worried about is a new set of legal precedents that will make it impossible for Archive to legally rehost the content they have scraped.

Re: Google search drops cache link from search results

#169

Noticed this months ago. But what is the purpose of removing it? Has been a slightly useful thing especially for older links to see even barebones text-only for what might have been on a site without having to go to IA Wayback Machine etc.

The cached pages don't increase Adsense impressions. I think they're getting more desperate in finding ways to increase revenue.

Re: Google search drops cache link from search results

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I've had to use Google's cache maybe twice in the last year: the first time I was very surprised that they had hidden it one or two clicks deeper than it used to be; the second time was earlier today, and this time I couldn't find the button anywhere. I guess this confirms it's gone for real!

Heh. First: "We should move the cache link one menu click deeper, we don't have room here" (No one can easily find it now) Later: "Wow, no one uses cache, guess we should remove the link!"

Aren't they doing the same to reviews ? and to Google Maps ?
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