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Re: USCIS announces strengthened integrity measures for H-1B program

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India has a brain drain problem. The most profitable career in India is to leave India and become an immigrant. The US is not responsible for that problem and never will be. And even if the US fixed its immigration inconveniences, the problem in India would remain. India has other problems as well. For software engineers, the number one threat of hiring from India are the corporate cultures at Infosys, TCS and simila…

The US should absolutely make it easier for brilliant people to immigrate. A very high bar for immigration + a simpler process for such people is a net benefit. The current H1B process is broken and exploited. Some Indian kid graduating from Berkeley with a perfect GPA shouldn't have to rely on a lottery system.

The bar for H-1B is bachelor's degree from almost any institution. What you describe (top student from top school) does not represent the elegibility criteria for H-1B, or the profile of most people being granted that visa type.

H visa is not for world class top talent, that is the E visa.

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That's false. The H-1B database is public and you can look at the wages yourself. https://h1bdata.info/ Those are real salaries from LCAs, not self reported salaries.

Without any claim to the accuracy of the data, there is no incentive to list a salary on the LCA that is higher than required. You can always pay more, never less, so it only limits future flexibility. I have certainly paid higher salaries to individuals than what's listed on their LCA, not to mention total packages which aren't stated on the LCA.

Sure, it does not list total compensation.

But it is still more credible than self reporting.

Re: USCIS announces strengthened integrity measures for H-1B program

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> So why not just grant H1-Bs to the companies that are willing to pay their talent the most? As others have pointed out, you're assuming highest salary == most valuable, but what your idea will lead to is a bunch of talented people working on new ways to get people to click ads or write yet-another trading algorithm. IMHO, you'd fix the H1-B program by doing two things: 1. Eliminate the requirement that the visa-hol…

I have the opposite experience, I guess, as a US citizen who immigrated to Ireland, but after putting in my two years with the company that sponsored me and getting the right to work without sponsorship I left within a month for a 50% raise (actually more like 150% but I got lucky on stock) and full remote (before full remote was normal). A lot of the appeal of an immigrant is that they can't quit or take a better de…

> A lot of the appeal of an immigrant is that they can't quit or take a better deal.

Exactly, the whole point of my proposal is to undermine that appeal. An H1-B program structured like I propose would mean that employers would only sponsor immigrants when they truly can't get employees with the needed skills domestically at the real market rate.

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>> Under the beneficiary centric process, registrations will be selected by unique beneficiary rather than by registration.

Why do they think that's a good thing? If you have more than one offer then you are more in demand on the job market, presumably being a better specialist, more deserving of getting a visa :D

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Based on pay, I would guess chemists aren't in demand.

That’s not how the market works. It doesn’t go “oh we need chemists let’s increase their pay and they’ll flock here”. It goes “oh I guess we let our science skills rot for 20 years it seems really hard to do chemistry now let’s pivot the business into a glorified real estate holding and invest in those ad companies that seem to have good ROI”.

Ex-chemist, can confirm.

Re: USCIS announces strengthened integrity measures for H-1B program

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Because chemistry and IT/swe are not the same jobs. And America also needs chemists

If there is more demand for chemists, the wages will go up which in turn will incentivize more Americans to pursue being chemist as a career.

No, they try to rebrand as “quantitative bioscientists” or “molecular engineers” and cross their fingers and hope for postbac students who weren’t chemists because they don’t believe in their own curriculum anymore.

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> simply overstayed their tourist visa and never left. Some 5 years later... How did he make money during those 5 years?

> How did he make money during those 5 years? Worked in jobs that didn’t ask for proof of employment authorization. Being white also probably helped a lot. I’m actually willing to bet that most americans aren’t even aware that white people can also immigrate illegally.

The Irish American FBI/CBP agents deporting illegal Irishmen in Boston certainly are.

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Based on pay, I would guess chemists aren't in demand.

That’s not how the market works. It doesn’t go “oh we need chemists let’s increase their pay and they’ll flock here”. It goes “oh I guess we let our science skills rot for 20 years it seems really hard to do chemistry now let’s pivot the business into a glorified real estate holding and invest in those ad companies that seem to have good ROI”.

>I guess we let our science skills rot for 20 years.

Americans are world leaders among chemists, so I don't think you're correct in this case [1].

It looks much more like saturation, with only 7200 openings per year [2]. And over 13000 annual graduates [3].

We have an excess of chemists in the US, as best I can tell, and we should expect pay to reflect that.

[1] https://research.com/news-events/world-ranking-of-top-chemis...

[2] https://www.bls.gov/ooh/life-physical-and-social-science/che...

[3] https://cen.acs.org/education/graduate-education/numbers-s-c...

Re: USCIS announces strengthened integrity measures for H-1B program

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There's been a massive problem of diploma mills, both in America, and even worse in Canada, where colleges have basically been admitting students for fake degrees for pay, just because it gets them work permits post graduation much more easily, as somewhat of a workaround Canadian immigration. Canada recently has cracked down on (I believe undergraduate) student visas recently, with effectively a per-province cap. I'…

Sometimes it's not even Diploma Mills but state schools wanting to sweet sweet foreign student money. One of my H-1B coworker got her Masters in Computer Science from University of Houston. She was competent programmer but her work and another developer work was indistinguishable. She said 97% of her class was foreign students because if you look at the program, it makes little sense for any American to go into debt…

I went to a few HPC/NVidia seminars there - it’s a real program but you are right about the composition.
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